blugerchug
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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:05 pm

smonkey wrote:Koen just posted this on twitter:

http://frambozentaart.com/xbian/sotu.html

I don't understand from this why, as they've done nothing wrong, don't they find a new host and carry on?

TomDoe
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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:36 pm

They will come back, just taking some time to regroup and find a new place.
Give'em time and we'll see the best xbmc for RPI back and kicking

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:08 pm

I tested all 3 XBMC/Raspbian distros and ended up with Xbian. It is fast, smooth and I love it!
And, by the way Nazarko's statement about overclocking is absolute nonsense :evil: or are the Raspbian people with their Turbo-mode idiots? :?:
Please, Koenkk, find a way to come back and make us normal users happy again! :mrgreen:
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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:52 pm

Softeis wrote:I tested all 3 XBMC/Raspbian distros and ended up with Xbian. It is fast, smooth and I love it!
And, by the way Nazarko's statement about overclocking is absolute nonsense :evil: or are the Raspbian people with their Turbo-mode idiots? :?:
Please, Koenkk, find a way to come back and make us normal users happy again! :mrgreen:
Softeis
We found the way ;)

Lastb0isct
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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:18 pm

Hey Koenkk,

Just logged in to see this whole mess! What is wrong with these people. I hope the developer base doesn't turn this direction for RPi. Thank you so much for all your development. WIll be looking for more updates when they come and hopefully we can get this all resolved ASAP. Missing the IRC Chat...let us know if you get a irc going and i'll be glad to join and just chat.

Eagerly awaiting the next Beta...

-Lastb0i

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:44 pm

Gentlemen -- whatever your views, please keep the name-calling and ad hominem attacks out of any further posts. If you think someone is a clown or an idiot then tell them to their face (or at least in a personal communication of some sort), not on here.

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:40 pm

I like Xbian very much and find this situation very sad. I hope the development does not stop especially that the new "turbo mode" came out.

XtR
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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:55 am

XtR wrote:Hi,

Sorry if this posted again...
How can i access my files on SD card and USB on raspberry pi from my mac or pc?
I tried editing smb.conf but i cant copy from or to the raspberry pi.
I have to add that i can browse my shares and the files.

Thanks
Anyone?

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:20 am

rey wrote:Can a mod post the IPs of all the people talking about how much they love Xbian?

I get the horrible feeling they're all the same people.
Not sure why you would think this. Is it impossible that people may actually #like# it? I have tried all the xbmc versions for raspberry pi and xbian is by far the most responsive in the menus. I moved over to openelec when I thought xbian was dead and its noticeably slower even overclocked. I am not not affilliated with xbian in any way.

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:34 am

I've only tried Xbian and I thought it was pretty slick. I do hope that it will continue to be improved upon.

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:39 am

rey wrote:Can a mod post the IPs of all the people talking about how much they love Xbian?

I get the horrible feeling they're all the same people.
Not me, mate...

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:16 am

rey wrote:Can a mod post the IPs of all the people talking about how much they love Xbian?

I get the horrible feeling they're all the same people.
Yeah let the mods do that and you will get a surprise for sure with that attitude.
You think we all have to like the same thing?, you think everyone with a rpi is using it for the same things?
Ignorance is bliss....

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:27 am

Xbian is back :) website up and running at xbian.org

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:21 pm

XtR wrote:
XtR wrote:Hi,

Sorry if this posted again...
How can i access my files on SD card and USB on raspberry pi from my mac or pc?
I tried editing smb.conf but i cant copy from or to the raspberry pi.
I have to add that i can browse my shares and the files.

Thanks
Anyone?

Sounds like if you can see the files but can't change them you have a permissions problem? You tried sudo or su. i'm assuming. If you have sounds like chown or chmod is next. Are you using putty to ssh in to the rpi?

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:33 pm

ScoobyDoo wrote:Xbian is back :) website up and running at xbian.org
Still down when I just looked :-(

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sun Sep 23, 2012 12:57 pm

calisto wrote:
ScoobyDoo wrote:Xbian is back :) website up and running at xbian.org
Still down when I just looked :-(
Down here too

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com

TomDoe
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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sun Sep 23, 2012 1:37 pm

Wait for a DNS update and it should be good

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:35 pm

TomDoe wrote:Wait for a DNS update and it should be good

It's up but slow

[Mod Edit: removed image link to external site]

rick19011
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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:22 pm

Xbian is the best which is why it is more popular than both Raspbmc and Openelec :D

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:58 pm

smuggly wrote:
XtR wrote:
XtR wrote:Hi,

Sorry if this posted again...
How can i access my files on SD card and USB on raspberry pi from my mac or pc?
I tried editing smb.conf but i cant copy from or to the raspberry pi.
I have to add that i can browse my shares and the files.

Thanks
Anyone?

Sounds like if you can see the files but can't change them you have a permissions problem? You tried sudo or su. i'm assuming. If you have sounds like chown or chmod is next. Are you using putty to ssh in to the rpi?
I am using ssh from terminal (macos). Is there any simple steps to read or someone to post instructions for xbian? I want to have access to the files in the usb stick and if possible on SD too.

Thanks

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:00 am

Hmmm... spent the better part of an hour trying to get WiFi working.... had to go to the shell and run the install script deep in the depths of the system. That is working.

Now how to get it to expand to the 8GB card that it is on. None of the normal tools seem to be there.

Thought I would take a quick look at this tonight and it has been anything but quick trying to figure out where/what to do. I must be missing the simple Start here document that takes a new user not familar with the interface or release to know where and how and what to setup.
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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:44 am

I dont know what you are talking about. Ive configured Xbian today in about and hour. The only one problem Ive had was with my K400 keyboard. But now everything is ok.

You just need to run Programs->Xbian Settings and update to the newest version and this will install your wifi (MrEngman's script), update to 0.7v and also it can expand rootfs (which basically takes the most time).

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:11 am

Dave_PL wrote:I dont know what you are talking about. Ive configured Xbian today in about and hour. The only one problem Ive had was with my K400 keyboard. But now everything is ok.

You just need to run Programs->Xbian Settings and update to the newest version and this will install your wifi (MrEngman's script), update to 0.7v and also it can expand rootfs (which basically takes the most time).
1) Update to the newest version would normally mean it would need Network access? Without the WiFi working, there was no network access. There is no way to get an Ethernet cable to where it is located.

2) After I got the WiFi working (using MrEngman's scripts that were on the system original, just buried)... I did do the update you suggest. it asked a few questions, and then asked to reboot and when it came back no changes to the filesystem was made.

There is nothing in any of the dialog that I've seen that indicates it is supposed to expand the filesytem to the SDCard using that function, and there were no errors saying it couldn't do it, so I spend the better part of the next couple hours clicking on other menu's and searching both here and the Xbian website (Which still has many links not working). I even tried the two IRC channels and posted a message on the forum which disappeared (appears it needed to be approved first).

After I gave up, I built a new Raspbian OS (WiFi works fine), expanded it, loaded some other packages that i needed, and then loaded the XBMC Standalone and I have been playing with that.

Current disk space on the 4GB SDCard...:

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Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
rootfs          954M  661M  245M  73% /
/dev/root       954M  661M  245M  73% /
tmpfs            13M  336K   12M   3% /run
tmpfs           5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
tmpfs            25M     0   25M   0% /tmp
tmpfs            10M     0   10M   0% /dev
tmpfs            25M     0   25M   0% /run/shm
/dev/mmcblk0p1   75M   27M   49M  36% /boot
And still have no way to expand it yet.

On the new system I built, I have about 15gb free on a 16GB card.

Apparently on the XBian system, I missed the super obvious instructions on how this should have been done.
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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:47 am

Expanding the filesystem on a SD with XBian is not very simple as the swap partition is located after the partition holding the / filesystem so one has to "swapoff -a", remove swap partition, extend partition, re-create swap partition at the end of card, "mkswap" the add the FS extending script to be run at the next boot.

I hope that in the next releases, XBian will have a partiton map like this:

1st) /boot - 64Mb FAT32 holding the firmware
2nd) swap - 128Mb (max 256Mb) - If you use more than this, then there's a bug somewhere
3rd) / - Only as big as needed to hold all files (so it's quicker to put the initial image onto a SD) then auto-expand to fill the whole card at the 1st boot.

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Re: XBian - Small, Fast, Lightweight XBMC solution

Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:27 am

I noticed that there was a physical swap partition.

So why is Dave_PL saying that doing the update was going to expand the FS to the size of the SDCard. I was wondering how it was going to do that.

With the Raspbian OS, that I created, that was easy to do, loading XBMC stand alone was a lot of additional packages and perhaps not as refined, but it at least had some space to work with.

I tried to play ISO's with both with the same result. unable to load file.
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