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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:44 pm

the only secondary school is prince andrew school whos deputy head is mrs penny bowers and the four houses are undens jenkins cavendish and dutton

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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:45 pm

aaronmatt wrote:our current govener is mark capes and the solicoter general is morag stevenson who also happens to be my mum
Cool. Glad to hear it.

Really, I just wanted an excuse to tell the Reunion story.
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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:46 pm

reunion story?

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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:48 pm

aaronmatt wrote:reunion story?
Yeah, it's there (in my previous post). About the "country" of Reunion…
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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:49 pm

whats the reunion story

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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:49 pm

ok but can someone please help me

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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:57 pm

dougie you still there you put in alot of effort maybe there is some left

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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:01 pm

if this makes a difference it might be eacause i cant use one of the recomended formaters

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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:59 pm

aaronmatt wrote:dougie you still there you put in alot of effort maybe there is some left
Since we have to assume you've wholeheartedly trashed the current SDCard (no matter what you've done and how out of date it might have been when you started) you have two choices:

1. Download 800MB down the slow wires
2. Wait five months for the next boat to arrive

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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:17 pm

1. Download 800MB down the slow wires
Just out of curiosity, to which 800MB file do you refer?

Is that the current size of the "NOOBS" (semi-light - that is, it includes Raspbian, but no other OSes) ?

Is the true "light" version (network only) still being made available?

Would that help the OP?
(or is it just "pay now, pay later" ?)
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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:19 pm

I've not looked at NOOBS lite, but it is going to pull the Raspbian files down the wire at some point. So even if it's 200MB to get NOOBS running there'd still be another 600MB to go.
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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:20 pm

DougieLawson wrote:I've not looked at NOOBS lite, but it is going to pull the Raspbian files down the wire at some point. So even if it's 200MB to get NOOBS running there'd still be another 600MB to go.
Right - that's what I meant by "pay now, pay later" (either way, you pay).

BTW, is that a "yes" on what the 800MB is?
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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:02 pm

AIUI the card is not thrashed, OP wants to create a copy of the first one.
At least that was the original question...

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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:21 pm

DirkS wrote:AIUI the card is not thrashed, OP wants to create a copy of the first one.
At least that was the original question...
Copying a borked card gives you two borked cards.
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Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:39 pm

DougieLawson wrote:
DirkS wrote:AIUI the card is not thrashed, OP wants to create a copy of the first one.
At least that was the original question...
Copying a borked card gives you two borked cards.
Can you point me to the post where it says the first card does not work?
I can't find it...

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Tue Dec 23, 2014 6:57 pm

DirkS wrote: Can you point me to the post where it says the first card does not work?
I can't find it...
http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewt ... 62#p658462
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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:02 pm

DougieLawson wrote:
DirkS wrote: Can you point me to the post where it says the first card does not work?
I can't find it...
http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewt ... 62#p658462
Nope, doesn't say the first card is borked. What I read there is that the second card doesn't work after trying to copy it from the first.
Looks to me he had a Noobs card and installed Raspbian. At this point a straight copy from card a to card b will not give you a working Noobs install.

Maybe 'aaronmatt' can shed some light on what the situation actually is...

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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:13 am

first off neither of the caards are borked they both still work and second dougie dont be so negitive

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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:49 am

In that case use your Raspberry Pi to run the copy from one card to the other. It'll take about 2hrs 30mins but should work (as long as the cards are the same size or the target card is bigger). I'm assuming you're using 8GB cards.

Grab a USB SDCard reader.
Mount the target card in that reader, insert that in the USB socket on your RPi
Boot the system to a point where you can login as root, sudo -i to a root shell or open a root command window.

dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/dev/sda bs=30M &

That will copy every byte from the SDCard that you're booted from to the SDCard in the reader. Leave the RPi alone running that thing so that there aren't too many files (like logs) that change while the process runs. It's a fuzzy copy but don't worry because that gets fixed when the target SDCard gets booted in your RPi. The bs=30M gives it lots of memory to play in and reduces the elapsed time (a 30MB chunk of RAM needs to be available). On a heavily loaded system you may need to reduce that, you DO NOT want to force the system into swapping.

It may take some time, but it gets Windows out of the equation and in most cases it will just work.
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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:51 am

ok thanks but can anyone dumb that down for me because i didnt understand a word of that

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Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:52 am

aaronmatt wrote:ok thanks but can anyone dumb that down for me because i didnt understand a word of that
It's the LINUX way to copy SDCards

The Microsoft Windows way is with Win32DiskImager.
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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Wed Dec 24, 2014 9:54 am

si i need a usb micro s.d adapter

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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:47 am

DougieLawson wrote:
aaronmatt wrote:ok thanks but can anyone dumb that down for me because i didnt understand a word of that
It's the LINUX way to copy SDCards

The Microsoft Windows way is with Win32DiskImager.
There is an alternative: http://www.alexpage.de/usb-image-tool/
Download size is 250Kb (win32diskimager is about 12MB). It *does* use .NET (4.0 I think) but it can also be used from the command line (and then it doesn't need .NET)
I actually use this one instead of win32disketcetera.

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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:56 am

aaronmatt wrote:si i need a usb micro s.d adapter
Everyone who's got a Raspberry Pi needs three SDCards and a USB reader for them. It WILL make your life easier. At the last count my three RPis owned 14 SDCards/microSDCards (in carriers) between them.
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Re: help please - copy NOOBS to another card

Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:57 pm

first off neither of the caards are borked they both still work and second dougie dont be so negitive
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