cant switch to older TV

[bigguyone]

Been reading on here but havent seen to find answer. When i use the HDMI it works fine but when i use PI at work (on an older TV) with out HDMI it wont show. I did the shift 3 then 4, it takes me to the install screen . The prob them is when i exit i have to redo it over, it never stays on the tv, all i get is snow. What am i doing worng. when i first got my sdcard it work fine but one day it lost averthing so i reloaded sdcard from raspberry web site.
I downloaded it two time thinking it didnt download right the first time.

Thanks

[FTrevorGowen]

Been reading on here but havent seen to find answer. When i use the HDMI it works fine but when i use PI at work (on an older TV) with out HDMI it wont show. I did the shift 3 then 4, it takes me to the install screen . The prob them is when i exit i have to redo it over, it never stays on the tv, all i get is snow. What am i doing worng. when i first got my sdcard it work fine but one day it lost averthing so i reloaded sdcard from raspberry web site.
I downloaded it two time thinking it didnt download right the first time.
Thanks

From your reference to "shift 3 then 4" I'm guessing you used NOOBS to perform your original install (of Raspbian?). Whilst you can choose to use HDMI or composite video during the install process, once you've done so (and it's become/made "permanent"**) you cannot easily use the Pi with a different monitor/TV type. This is because NOOBS effectively disables the (original) video mode "auto-detection" mechanism that Raspbian used based upon the presence of a "hot-plug" signal on the HDMI connection. Whilst said mechanism, AFAIK, still exists if Raspbian is installed directly via a "raw image" (*.img) file it's not as "robust" as it might be because some HDMI devices/cables don't provide the "hot-plug" signal. So, you can either use NOOBS' recovery mode config.txt editor (whilst connected to your HDMI monitor, perhaps) to force "composite video" on the next re-boot or re-install using the "older TV" and make composite video permanent. (Or, install Raspbian from a "raw image" instead).
Trev.
** http://www.cpmspectrepi.webspace.virgin ... ellow.html
**** http://www.cpmspectrepi.webspace.virgin ... ting_Tools

[bigguyone]

Yes this is what i did downloaded NOOBS and downloaded OPEN ???? (forgot what it said now). Now i did the first download with HDMI at home and it did just fine. But when hook to older TV didnt work out to good, thats when i downloaded raspberrybmc and still came up with samething. So with doing it the last download sould it have work with older tv? Also could i copy my one sdcard to this one? I know it works on both HDMI & other tv.

[FTrevorGowen]

Yes this is what i did downloaded NOOBS and downloaded OPEN ???? (forgot what it said now). Now i did the first download with HDMI at home and it did just fine. But when hook to older TV didnt work out to good, thats when i downloaded raspberrybmc and still came up with samething. So with doing it the last download sould it have work with older tv? Also could i copy my one sdcard to this one? I know it works on both HDMI & other tv.

"OPEN ????" probably == OpenELEC ?
Unfortunately, as indicated in my previous post, once you've used NOOBS to install any O.S. (or multiple O.S.'s) using an HDMI video device you cannot simply move the Pi, change the connecting leads etc., and use it with a composite video device. (NOOBS assumes you're only going to be using one type of video device with a given SDHC card installation). However, you can have one SDHC card setup for HDMI and another card setup for composite (and maybe use a USB flash drive to share files between setups). Or, for Raspbian, but perhaps not Arch, OpenELEC, RaspBMC etc. (I don't use those distro's much, so I'm not sure), if you install by the "raw image" method**, you may (still) be able to use one card only because Raspbian may be able to detect the absence of an HDMI hotplug signal (if your monitor/TV/cable connection provides that in the first place) and thus "fall back" to composite video mode.
Trev
** http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads "Raw Images" section

[bigguyone]

Yes this is what i did downloaded NOOBS and downloaded OPEN ???? (forgot what it said now). Now i did the first download with HDMI at home and it did just fine. But when hook to older TV didnt work out to good, thats when i downloaded raspberrybmc and still came up with samething. So with doing it the last download sould it have work with older tv? Also could i copy my one sdcard to this one? I know it works on both HDMI & other tv.

"OPEN ????" probably == OpenELEC ?
Unfortunately, as indicated in my previous post, once you've used NOOBS to install any O.S. (or multiple O.S.'s) using an HDMI video device you cannot simply move the Pi, change the connecting leads etc., and use it with a composite video device. (NOOBS assumes you're only going to be using one type of video device with a given SDHC card installation). However, you can have one SDHC card setup for HDMI and another card setup for composite (and maybe use a USB flash drive to share files between setups). Or, for Raspbian, but perhaps not Arch, OpenELEC, RaspBMC etc. (I don't use those distro's much, so I'm not sure), if you install by the "raw image" method**, you may (still) be able to use one card only because Raspbian may be able to detect the absence of an HDMI hotplug signal (if your monitor/TV/cable connection provides that in the first place) and thus "fall back" to composite video mode.
Trev
** http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads "Raw Images" section

I went to this site to see if it was the same and it is. Did the format then diskmangment and NOOBS. So i guess i will just have to get a new sdcard with it loaded like i did befor and keep this as backup for HDMI. If i use diskmangment could i copy the sdcard that works on both to the other sdcard?

[FTrevorGowen]

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I went to this site to see if it was the same and it is. Did the format then diskmangment and NOOBS. So i guess i will just have to get a new sdcard with it loaded like i did befor and keep this as backup for HDMI. If i use diskmangment could i copy the sdcard that works on both to the other sdcard?

Generally speaking, you cannot use "basic" Windows tools to copy SDHC cards that have Linux partition types on them since Windows doesn't recognise or understand them. However I'm only familiar with Windows XP tools. It's possible, but unlikely, that Windows 7/8 "disk management tools" might be able to perform some form of "raw" copy, but, more likely, will just have some basic "read" capability if it can do anything at all. (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong).
Trev.