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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:04 pm

I have usually connected USB Flash Drive and wireless keyboard+mouse. Yes, I tried connecting using SSH - no luck. It just reboots after I get an error. I tried everything, unplugging USB devices, connecting new ones, I tried reinstalling Raspbian, tried powering it from different source...

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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:19 pm

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Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:04 pm
I have usually connected USB Flash Drive and wireless keyboard+mouse. Yes, I tried connecting using SSH - no luck. It just reboots after I get an error. I tried everything, unplugging USB devices, connecting new ones, I tried reinstalling Raspbian, tried powering it from different source...
When you tried re-installiing Raspbian (Lite, Desktop or Full?) did you just (attempt to) re-use the existing uSDHC card or use a fresh (new) one?
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Still running Raspbian Jessie or Stretch on some older Pi's (an A, B1, 2xB2, B+, P2B, 3xP0, P0W, 2xP3A+, P3B+, P3B, B+, and a A+) but Buster on the P4B's. See: https://www.cpmspectrepi.uk/raspberry_pi/raspiidx.htm

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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:41 pm

I used the same SD Card and I installed FULL version. I would try a different SD and I will let you know.

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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:58 pm

So I took another SD Card and installed Raspbian Lite. After booting it gives same errors as last time, but there is more text and info.

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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:20 pm

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Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:58 pm
So I took another SD Card and installed Raspbian Lite. After booting it gives same errors as last time, but there is more text and info.
O.K. That, hopefully, suggests it's maybe not an "SD card issue" but, for completeness, what method did you use to write the O.S. to the SD card and with what hardware? My current preferred approach would be to use the new Imager Tool ( https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspbe ... g-utility/ ) and a known (labelled) SDHC compatible USB-based card reader. Do you know how to enable WiFi and SSH on a (potentially) headless setup?** W/o that ability and/or access to something like one of these: https://www.cpmspectrepi.uk/raspberry_p ... pters.html
it's going to be difficult to diagnose the problem in any detail because we need to see those (and maybe other) error messages "in context". A 'photo of the display may help a little but a SSH or serial terminal session, if either work, would allow you to run other tests etc.
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** some info. here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... /README.md
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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:09 pm

Yes, I am using the official Raspberry Pi Imager you mentioned. And for SD Card adapter... I am using one supplied with this specific Micro SD Card. SSH is not working even though I turned it on before raspberry pi broke. Raspberry Pi doesn't even boot to desktop. It just starts, gives errors and reboot. I'm also putting here some photos of some errors. I didn't capture all, but those common onces.
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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:15 pm

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Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:09 pm
Yes, I am using the official Raspberry Pi Imager you mentioned. And for SD Card adapter... I am using one supplied with this specific Micro SD Card. SSH is not working even though I turned it on before raspberry pi broke. Raspberry Pi doesn't even boot to desktop. It just starts, gives errors and reboot. I'm also putting here some photos of some errors. I didn't capture all, but those common onces.
However those 'photo's do show something else that's important - the lightning bolt icon, top right, means that your power supply is poor - that's the low voltage warning! What are you using?
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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:18 pm

You will probably have a good laugh about this, but my phone charger is too weak, so I am powering my Raspberry Pi from PS4 USB port :lol:

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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:32 pm

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You will probably have a good laugh about this, but my phone charger is too weak, so I am powering my Raspberry Pi from PS4 USB port :lol:
You might have got away with a "Y" lead that uses two USB ports for input (often supplied with USB2 disk "caddies" for 2.5" HDD's) assuming each port could supply 0.5A but, quite often, all the port's (like on the Pi) power (out) pins are connected in parallel. Phone chargers are not that reliable - I've assessed quite a few: https://www.cpmspectrepi.uk/raspberry_p ... plies.html (some before I received my first Pi, back in 2012).
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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:38 pm

So could change of power supply explain and fix my problems? And what would be ideal specs for power supply for raspberry pi?

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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:45 pm

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Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:38 pm
So could change of power supply explain and fix my problems? And what would be ideal specs for power supply for raspberry pi?

https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/ra ... er-supply/
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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:02 pm

So I tried power supply with very similar specs as the official Raspberry Pi power supply. No luck, it still doesn't work.

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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:04 pm

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Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:02 pm
So I tried power supply with very similar specs as the official Raspberry Pi power supply. No luck, it still doesn't work.

A Power Supply is not the same as a Phone Charger.....
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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:10 pm

But still, it worked to this day with no problem running on phone chargers, PS4 USBs, etc. So why it would one day decide that it would not run on phone chargers, but on power supplies?

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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:32 pm

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Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:10 pm
But still, it worked to this day with no problem running on phone chargers, PS4 USBs, etc. So why it would one day decide that it would not run on phone chargers, but on power supplies?
The unsuitable phone charger may have partially triggered some of the protection circuitry (eg. the polyfuse) . Re-try it with a better supply after at least 48hrs has passed. What length of connecting cable was being used? (Poor quality, too long cables can also give rise to low-voltage issues). The official power supplies were designed specifically to deal with the issues associated with "generic" phone chargers as the capabilities and associated power requirements of the various Pi models developed since 2012 changed especially for the B+ onwards which were expected to be supplied with enough spare capacity to power a connected USB HDD.
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Re: Raspberry Pi isn't booting

Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:40 pm

I always used the same 1 meter long usb cable. I will try to find better power supply during those 48 hours. Thank you a lot, Trev.

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