Putzboy
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windows 10

Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:14 pm

can i run windows 10 on a raspberry pi 4 4gb model???

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Re: windows 10

Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:23 pm

Short answer: NO

Long answer: You can run something called Windows 10 IoT on the Pi 3B and 3B+, but not the Pi 4B. Windows 10 IoT is not Windows 10 as you know it - it does not have the graphical desktop, and is instead intended to be used in embedded "Internet of Things" devices. In addition to Win10 IoT, some clever people have written drivers and developed a procedure to run "real" Windows 10 on the Pi 3 and 4B. Unfortunately it runs very slow and is not in any way usable - rather it is simply a proof of concept.

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Re: windows 10

Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:24 pm

Simple answer, no you can't.

More complex answer, there is a hacked version of Windows on ARM, but that's not the Windows 10 you are likely referring to. The problem is that Pi computers use a different hardware architecture than most Windows computers. They basically speak different languages, so software for one will not run on the other.
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Re: windows 10

Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:27 pm

NO!
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Re: windows 10

Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:30 pm

What everybody said above ^

Even if you do get it running, it is basically a toy or novelty and not useful for real usage. Anything CPU or memory intensive will run very slowly due to emulation overheads. Anything that wants to use the GPU like games won't run at all as the Pi GPU only supports a very old version of the full OpenGL specification.

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Re: windows 10

Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:37 pm

If you want a small, cheap Windows 10 computer then buy an Intel Compute Stick (or equivalent).
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Re: windows 10

Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:10 am

HawaiianPi wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:24 pm
Simple answer, no you can't.

More complex answer, there is a hacked version of Windows on ARM, but that's not the Windows 10 you are likely referring to. The problem is that Pi computers use a different hardware architecture than most Windows computers. They basically speak different languages, so software for one will not run on the other.
can i get a link to this

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Re: windows 10

Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:03 am

Putzboy wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:10 am
HawaiianPi wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:24 pm
Simple answer, no you can't.

More complex answer, there is a hacked version of Windows on ARM, but that's not the Windows 10 you are likely referring to. The problem is that Pi computers use a different hardware architecture than most Windows computers. They basically speak different languages, so software for one will not run on the other.
can i get a link to this
No, you'll need to find it yourself. It is almost 100% certain that you don't have and cannot obtain a legal licence to run that. Any posted link here would be removed by a moderator.

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Re: windows 10

Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:34 am

Putzboy wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 12:10 am
can i get a link to this
Not from me.

And it's pointless anyway. It won't run any modern or useful Windows software (nothing 64-bit works), and older 32-bit stuff runs painfully slowly in emulation (if it runs at all). So legality aside, it's crap.

Bottom line is, if you want a system to run Windows 10, don't get a Raspberry Pi.
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Re: windows 10

Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:19 am

If you do ever "catch" the link.... I've read that it comes with free lifetime of frustrations, anxiety and regret...... :mrgreen:

some have lost a great amount of hair..... :lol:
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Come to me with 'problems' and I'll help you find solutions"

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Re: windows 10

Mon Jan 06, 2020 10:09 am

LTolledo wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:19 am
I've read that it comes with free lifetime of frustrations, anxiety and regret.
But it's Windows, so ... Image
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Re: windows 10

Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:30 am

Bottom line is, if you want a system to run Windows 10, don't get a Raspberry Pi.
Symmetrically, if you have a Raspberry Pi, re-program yourself to not want "Windows".

When life gives you lemons...
GitD's list of things that are not ready for prime time:
1) IPv6
2) 64 bit OSes
3) USB 3
4) Bluetooth

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Re: windows 10

Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:26 pm

GlowInTheDark wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:30 am
Bottom line is, if you want a system to run Windows 10, don't get a Raspberry Pi.
Symmetrically, if you have a Raspberry Pi, re-program yourself to not want "Windows".

When life gives you lemons...
Please don't leave out the Mac Users.... :D

though I've yet to read from some newbies in this forum adamantly demanding Mac OS for their Raspberry Pi :lol:
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Come to me with 'problems' and I'll help you find solutions"

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Re: windows 10

Mon Jan 06, 2020 1:29 pm

GlowInTheDark wrote:
Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:30 am
Bottom line is, if you want a system to run Windows 10, don't get a Raspberry Pi.
Symmetrically, if you have a Raspberry Pi, re-program yourself to not want "Windows".

When life gives you lemons...
Who mentioned lemons? They go with Orange PI.

We all have Raspberries. They go with Raspbian. Or Debian. Or Gentoo. Or Ubuntu. Just not Windows10.
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Re: windows 10

Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:51 pm

"Windows 10 on ARM is up and running on the Raspberry Pi 4, after enterprising folks managed to get it running on the Raspberry Pi 3, as we saw early in 2019.
But always keep in mind that that is essentially useless (although impressive from a techy/geeky perspective) unless it runs x86 Windows binaries. 'Cause that's what people really want.

Now, having said that, I seem to remember that there is some kind of x86 emulation folded into Windows on ARM, but I would imagine it suffers from the same basic problem that all x86-emulation-on-Raspberry-Pi things do - namely, that it is going to be very slow.
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1) IPv6
2) 64 bit OSes
3) USB 3
4) Bluetooth

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Re: windows 10

Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:08 pm

GlowInTheDark wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:51 pm
"Windows 10 on ARM is up and running on the Raspberry Pi 4, after enterprising folks managed to get it running on the Raspberry Pi 3, as we saw early in 2019.
But always keep in mind that that is essentially useless (although impressive from a techy/geeky perspective) unless it runs x86 Windows binaries. 'Cause that's what people really want.

Now, having said that, I seem to remember that there is some kind of x86 emulation folded into Windows on ARM, but I would imagine it suffers from the same basic problem that all x86-emulation-on-Raspberry-Pi things do - namely, that it is going to be very slow.
Given my post disappeared I guess we are not allowed to discuss it further.

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