Can I suggest you are a little more polite in your posts? People, including me, are trying to help you, but you don't seem to appreciate that. I suggest appreciating it.
Thank you for that little 'gem'. I commented out the whole mono section (by mistake) and now pavucontrol is showing Analog Stereo outputDid the following. Opened file
Commented out mono mode.
Thank you. That is similar to the clip I was looking for. And altough ALSA still shows Mono, and Pulse now shows Stereo since the config edit. The sound is still only coming from one channel."Seeing" and "Hearing" are not the same
I'd disagree that Buster OS is crude. It's a very recent version of the kernel and the distro and you are conflating the OS with the DISTRIBUTION, they are not the same thing. The fact that SOME things in the repo don't work very well, doesn't mean the entire distro is flakey. Pulseaudio is deliberately left out of the Raspbian, for exactly the reason that it is just too buggy, but because we cannot check everything, sometimes apps are in there that simply don't work very well.renice123 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:38 amUnfortunately, the pulseaudio problem is not only a Raspbian problem.
Pulseaudio also works poorly on x86 computers on other distributions.
And you can easily find a description of the numerous "bugs" on request in Google
As an example https://wiki.parabola.nu/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting
I first read about the problem with mono sound four years ago at the Intel architecture computer forum and it has not yet been resolved.
Conclusions can be made sad.
Buster also has many other badly running programs; it's a crude operating system.
But Buster is installed by default on Raspberries of the fourth version and there is no alternative yet.
The problem is not entirely pulseaudio. I use it in a lot of Linux distributions on many different types of computers, including, as I have mentioned frequently, on Manjaro for Raspberry Pi 4.Pulseaudio is deliberately left out of the Raspbian, for exactly the reason that it is just too buggy, but because we cannot check everything, sometimes apps are in there that simply don't work very well.
Pulseaudio is buggy on lots of platforms, but there are specific issues with it on Pi as the underlying firmware was based around ALSA, and moving to Pulseaudio gives some unwanted delays in the audio pipeline (important when combined with video). The pulseaudio team really need to work on their bug fixing.RossDv8 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:28 pmThe problem is not entirely pulseaudio. I use it in a lot of Linux distributions on many different types of computers, including, as I have mentioned frequently, on Manjaro for Raspberry Pi 4.Pulseaudio is deliberately left out of the Raspbian, for exactly the reason that it is just too buggy, but because we cannot check everything, sometimes apps are in there that simply don't work very well.
The main reason for using pulseaudio on Linux is that ALSA is unable to be 'easily configured' to provide decent volume and frequncies of sound, and jack is damned near impossible for an average user to even work out what might be useful.
On the Pi 4, for example, the audio volume is not sufficient at 100%, to listen to a movie even using an external amplifier and with full gain - once you can work out how to get that 4db gain.
With pulse, you just make sure you have the pulseaudio volume control installed, and immediately you can nudge up to 150% or sometimes higher depending where your speakers hit distortion.
For pulseaudio, for most people, all that is needed is 3 main packages (including a reasonable equalizer) and maybe LADSPA to run one of the equalizers.
In Manjaro for the Pi, I think from memory pulseaudio was installed by default and working and 'maybe' I added the equalizer and LADSPA, but I can't remember doing that. At any rate, it has the Pi playing with full volume available, and a decent (about 15 band) equalizer with presets. And in STEREO !
ALSA plays in stereo on the Pi 4 with Raspbian Buster 'unless you add pulseaudio'
The problem is not that Raspbian is primitive. The problem is that the RPF team responsible for packages has not got pulseausio set up to work, as the Manjaro team, and most other distro's have done.
And 'In My Opinion' I'd guess the reason is most likely a matter of funding, and priorities. Because the Pi 4 is a new product. Because the RPF is trying to keep the price of the Pi as low as possible whilst trying to give us the best product for price/performance that they can. And because the amount of funding at the price point/profit ratio of the product is probably sufficient to hire more people to work out the bugs in someone else's software.
It would be nice if someone from the team that built pulseaudio managed to sort the problem with the Pi 4 / Buster, but I don;t see that happening soon either.
For now, with pulseaudio, I have full rich audio, and only realise it is Mono if I walk up to the right side if the TV. I would hate it if I was using headphones. But if I was using headphones, ALSA would probably have been plenty loud enough.
But I would still like to see the problem with the pulseaudio install killing stereo fixed. However I think we need to be patient.
I believe there are problems when using it with BlueTooth, there may be other issues.renice123 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:29 pmI still think the problem with pulseaudio in Rasbian seems far-fetched
I do not like pulseaudio and scold the program because this program does not suit me, but I use pulseaudio always on Raspberry. Apart from fixing one configuration file, I did nothing. Often, pulseaudio works for me with the JACK Audio Connection Kit sound server
Sometimes I turn off pulseaudio. All this works without hallucinations after I tuned the sound.
Since I have a jack, I can use LADSPA filters, I also have a small delay in sound, but pulseaudio allows you to quickly and online configure the outputs of Kodi, VLC in order to transfer sound over the network (I use the Volumio sound server on a separate computer)
Setting up jack was harder than commenting out mono in pulseaudio =)
I can "transfer" sound streams over pulseaudio, I can include some exotic solutions and all this does not cause me any difficulties.
Yes, I’m an old Linux user (from the same year that Linux appeared on CD - it seems that this is the beginning of the nineties), I worked for Unix in the 80s, I found times when ALSA worked somehow, so I don’t I see such a problem in spending 10 minutes setting up the sound =)