ArnauBG
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Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:51 pm

Yesterday I bought a Pi Zero, I installes Noobs in a 16 GB Micro SDHC card following the tutorial at https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/pro ... setting-up.
I've tried to boot in a my other Pi (Pi 2) and NOOBS start
My Pi is broken?
Thanks for advance, have a nice day.
ArnauBG

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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sat Jan 26, 2019 11:39 pm

Hi.
Your first port of call should be the not booting sticky
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view ... 91&t=58743
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ArnauBG
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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:48 am

Hi.
Your first port of call should be the not booting sticky
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view ... 91&t=58743
I read the sticky but I can't find a solution there. I have NOOBS 3.0.0. And The Micro SD card is new.

ArnauBG

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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:07 pm

Then I suggest you forget noobs and just write your SD card directly with raspbian.

down load it from here

https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/

then use etcher

https://www.balena.io/etcher/

to write the file directly to the SD card no need to unzip it.

follow the instruction s here

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... /README.md

under Writing an image to the SD card

one point to be aware of many built in card reader are no fully SDHC compatible especially in laptops so you might be better using a new ish USB one.

one last question were did you get your SD card from ? could it be a fake ?
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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:22 pm

pcmanbob wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:07 pm
Then I suggest you forget noobs and just write your SD card directly with raspbian.

down load it from here

https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/raspbian/

then use etcher

https://www.balena.io/etcher/

to write the file directly to the SD card no need to unzip it.

follow the instruction s here

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentati ... /README.md

under Writing an image to the SD card

one point to be aware of many built in card reader are no fully SDHC compatible especially in laptops so you might be better using a new ish USB one.

one last question were did you get your SD card from ? could it be a fake ?
The OP wrote "I've tried to boot in a my other Pi (Pi 2) and NOOBS start" which I interpret as meaning that the card did boot his other RPi. So unless it was an old version of NOOBS that he put on the card, the NOOBSed card was fine.

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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:34 pm

drgeoff wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:22 pm
The OP wrote "I've tried to boot in a my other Pi (Pi 2) and NOOBS start" which I interpret as meaning that the card did boot his other RPi. So unless it was an old version of NOOBS that he put on the card, the NOOBSed card was fine.
Was just suggesting he try that to make sure he gave the zero the best chance of working, if it still wont boot even after testing it with a fresh install then I guess we'd have to say its dead.

But to say it was dead without trying a fresh copy of the latest raspbian stretch is not something I would feel happy with.
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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:31 pm

ArnauBG wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:48 am
Hi.
Your first port of call should be the not booting sticky
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view ... 91&t=58743
I read the sticky but I can't find a solution there. I have NOOBS 3.0.0. And The Micro SD card is new.

ArnauBG
What was the result of the Zero(W) specific test of, with no micro-SD card plugged in, connecting to the USB port of a computer? The second half of the 3rd post in that topic.

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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:05 pm

drgeoff wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:31 pm
ArnauBG wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:48 am
Hi.
Your first port of call should be the not booting sticky
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view ... 91&t=58743
I read the sticky but I can't find a solution there. I have NOOBS 3.0.0. And The Micro SD card is new.

ArnauBG
What was the result of the Zero(W) specific test of, with no micro-SD card plugged in, connecting to the USB port of a computer? The second half of the 3rd post in that topic.
I can see the Pi Zero in the devices list it's NOT death.

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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:39 pm

ArnauBG wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:05 pm

I can see the Pi Zero in the devices list it's NOT death.
Then I suggest a fresh install of raspbian as I suggested writing it directly to the SD card.
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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:56 pm

pcmanbob wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:39 pm
ArnauBG wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:05 pm

I can see the Pi Zero in the devices list it's NOT death.
Then I suggest a fresh install of raspbian as I suggested writing it directly to the SD card.
I have it installed, but still not starting

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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:00 pm

ArnauBG wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:56 pm
pcmanbob wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:39 pm
ArnauBG wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:05 pm

I can see the Pi Zero in the devices list it's NOT death.
Then I suggest a fresh install of raspbian as I suggested writing it directly to the SD card.
I have it installed, but still not starting
Does the SD card with the fresh Install work in your other pi ?
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ArnauBG
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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:04 pm

pcmanbob wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:00 pm
ArnauBG wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:56 pm
pcmanbob wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:39 pm


Then I suggest a fresh install of raspbian as I suggested writing it directly to the SD card.
I have it installed, but still not starting
Does the SD card with the fresh Install work in your other pi ?
Yes

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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:52 pm

Then have a look at the pi zero SD card slot do you see any bent pins or other damage ?

Apart from the above it looks like you pi zero is dead, with regards booting from the SD card , has it ever worked ?
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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:29 pm

pcmanbob wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:52 pm
Then have a look at the pi zero SD card slot do you see any bent pins or other damage ?

Apart from the above it looks like you pi zero is dead, with regards booting from the SD card , has it ever worked ?
I think the Sd Card slot is right. Just in case I'm attaching a photo of the SD Card slot.
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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:02 am

If the SD card slot looks OK then I guess its time to talk to how ever you purchased it from , as I don't see what else you an try, and enquire about replacement under warranty.
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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:12 pm

How do you know that the Zero is not booting?

ArnauBG
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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:51 pm

pcmanbob wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 10:02 am
If the SD card slot looks OK then I guess its time to talk to how ever you purchased it from , as I don't see what else you an try, and enquire about replacement under warranty.
I bought the the pi hut essentials kit + Pi Zero at Amazon.

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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:57 pm

drgeoff wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:12 pm
How do you know that the Zero is not booting?
In my Pi Zero I didn't get any signal to the TV, and in my Pi 2 boots correctly whith the same things connected. So I deducted that my Pi Zero fails at booting. I tried the PC connection test and I can see the Pi Zero ag the devices list.

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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:43 pm

ArnauBG wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:57 pm
drgeoff wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:12 pm
How do you know that the Zero is not booting?
In my Pi Zero I didn't get any signal to the TV, and in my Pi 2 boots correctly whith the same things connected. So I deducted that my Pi Zero fails at booting. I tried the PC connection test and I can see the Pi Zero ag the devices list.
A Zero and a RPI2B have different HDMI output sockets. So the working 2B situation and the non-working Zero situation must have had at least one more difference than only the model of RPi.

Does the LED on the Zero flash when you try to boot it?

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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:20 pm

drgeoff wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:43 pm
ArnauBG wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:57 pm
drgeoff wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:12 pm
How do you know that the Zero is not booting?
In my Pi Zero I didn't get any signal to the TV, and in my Pi 2 boots correctly whith the same things connected. So I deducted that my Pi Zero fails at booting. I tried the PC connection test and I can see the Pi Zero ag the devices list.
A Zero and a RPI2B have different HDMI output sockets. So the working 2B situation and the non-working Zero situation must have had at least one more difference than only the model of RPi.

Does the LED on the Zero flash when you try to boot it?

Totally agree and why I always use a HDMi cable, as opposed to cable + adaptor..
Rather than negativity think outside the box !
RPi 4B 4GB (SSD Boot)..
Asus ChromeBox 3 Celeron is my other computer...

ArnauBG
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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:40 pm

drgeoff wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:43 pm
ArnauBG wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:57 pm
drgeoff wrote:
Mon Jan 28, 2019 12:12 pm
How do you know that the Zero is not booting?
In my Pi Zero I didn't get any signal to the TV, and in my Pi 2 boots correctly whith the same things connected. So I deducted that my Pi Zero fails at booting. I tried the PC connection test and I can see the Pi Zero ag the devices list.
A Zero and a RPI2B have different HDMI output sockets. So the working 2B situation and the non-working Zero situation must have had at least one more difference than only the model of RPi.

Does the LED on the Zero flash when you try to boot it?
At first the light flashes but then stays fixed.

drgeoff
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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:44 pm

That looks like the Zero is attempting to boot. And maybe succeeding.

Describe in full exact detail how the Zero is connected to the TV.

ArnauBG
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Re: Pi Zero doesen't boot

Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:07 pm

I was connecting my Raspberry Pi Zero so it worked and suddenly it has started to work fine. Sorry for the inconvenience :(

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