0 MB Available on NOOBS Lite and NOOBS (solved)

[FireDFL]

Hi there! I need help with a question. I recently bought a Raspberry Pi Model B Version 2.0. I tried to make my own SD, but I'm having a lot of trouble. I want to use Raspbian Wheezy as my OS, but both editions of NOOBS prevent me from doing this. However, it says that I need 2790 MB because I have 0 MB! How is that freakin' possible? They can't ready the extra space, which is so confusing! I'm using a 32 GB Micro SD Card for it, and yet it fails to read it. I also get an error at the beginning of it mentioning something about the partitions and FATS not matching. I'm a beginner, so I don't know what the heck happened? I'm as confused as Jay was from "Ninjago: The Shadow of Ronin" when he sees Zane and goes, "-what the heck happened to your face, Zane!?! You're a robot!" If anyone can help me, PLEASE HELP ME!

[fruitoftheloom]

OP did not want answer to question asked as given up with NOOBS, so deleted URL link

[mahjongg]

Did you run the expand the filesystem option with raspi-config? Without it the partition in which raspbian resides will not be expanded to the full size of the sd-card.
also read the stickies, in this case; viewtopic.php?p=664906#p664906

[B.Goode]

Looks remarkably similar to your post here: viewtopic.php?f=91&t=89941&p=815853#p815718

See the reply posted there. Asking the same question multiple times muddies the waters when people try to help. Particularly if you put different details...

[B.Goode]

Did you run the expand the filesystem option with raspi-config? Without it the partition in which raspbian resides will not be expanded to the full size of the sd-card.
also read the stickies, in this case; viewtopic.php?p=664906#p664906

"Did you run the expand the filesystem option with raspi-config?"

How can he do that - he hasn't got an operating system installed yet!

[FireDFL]

And also, I'm running BerryBoot now. I'm looking for a wifi dongle.

[FireDFL]

Did you run the expand the filesystem option with raspi-config? Without it the partition in which raspbian resides will not be expanded to the full size of the sd-card.
also read the stickies, in this case; viewtopic.php?p=664906#p664906

It's not possible without an OS. I haven't installed one yet.

[B.Goode]

And also, I'm running BerryBoot now.

So you won't be interested in the replies to help you get NOOBS installed that I took the trouble to think about and type in! Nice one!

[mahjongg]

If you value your time and sanity go with the official WiFi adapter, this one, http://swag.raspberrypi.org/collections ... ifi-dongle but note that it will only work with rapbian (which has built in drivers for it), but it will work "out of the box".

P.S. later I learned that the Broadcom driver is actually incorporated into the linux kernel, so ANY modern linux system will recognize the official WiFi adapter, and work with it immediately, also the source code is available, that is why Microsoft could port it so easily to WinIOT10.

When using another dongle your mileage may vary wildly, as they use reversed engineered drivers, re-compiled for the PI.
success depends on the chip-set used, and how good the driver for it is.

[FireDFL]

And also, I'm running BerryBoot now.

So you won't be interested in the replies to help you get NOOBS installed that I took the trouble to think about and type in! Nice one!

I still am. If there is a solution, I'll be looking for it. If I use BootBerry and it works successful, I'll still be taking it. And If I cause you confusion and frustration, I'm so sorry!

[FireDFL]

If you value your time and sanity go with the official WiFi adapter, this one, http://swag.raspberrypi.org/collections ... ifi-dongle but note that it will only work with rapbian (which has built in drivers for it), but it will work "out of the box".

When using another dongle your mileage may vary wildly, as they use reversed engineered drivers, re-compiled for the PI.
success depends on the chip-set used, and how good the driver for it is.

So.. should I use a wifi dongle from my own source? Because I live in the US, and it'll take a while to come to NY.

EDIT: It also is sold out. ':(

[mahjongg]

If you value your time and sanity go with the official WiFi adapter, this one, http://swag.raspberrypi.org/collections ... ifi-dongle but note that it will only work with rapbian (which has built in drivers for it), but it will work "out of the box".

When using another dongle your mileage may vary wildly, as they use reversed engineered drivers, re-compiled for the PI.
success depends on the chip-set used, and how good the driver for it is.

So.. should I use a wifi dongle from my own source? Because I live in the US, and it'll take a while to come to NY.

EDIT: It also is sold out. ':(

It is indeed sold out at the shop, at the moment, but it is also sold elsewhere.
like here: https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/offi ... ifi-dongle
As I said if you use a random dongle your mileage may vary.

by the way the as "official" sold dongle named wi-pi isn't official, and have not heard good things about it.
Read the wifi dongle sticky to get an idea.

[FireDFL]

If you value your time and sanity go with the official WiFi adapter, this one, http://swag.raspberrypi.org/collections ... ifi-dongle but note that it will only work with rapbian (which has built in drivers for it), but it will work "out of the box".

When using another dongle your mileage may vary wildly, as they use reversed engineered drivers, re-compiled for the PI.
success depends on the chip-set used, and how good the driver for it is.

So.. should I use a wifi dongle from my own source? Because I live in the US, and it'll take a while to come to NY.

EDIT: It also is sold out. ':(

It is indeed sold out at the shop, at the moment, but it is also sold elsewhere.
As I said if you use a random dongle your mileage may vary.
Read the wifi dongle sticky to get an idea.

Anyway, any solution for the NOOBS problem?

[mahjongg]

Perhaps, if you first formatted your card the right way, and then tried again. Its possible you formatted it without the re-size option on, and the card is filled with dummy partitions, which were not removed by formatting.

[FireDFL]

Perhaps, if you first formatted your card the right way, and then tried again. Its possible you formatted it without the re-size option on, and the card is filled with dummy partitions, which were not removed by formatting.

Ok. First, let my try BootBerry. I'll use Ethernet for now, but when I install the OS, can I switch the network option (From Ethernet to Wifi?) I just need to find or buy a wifi dongle, since my network supports both Ethernet and Wifi.

[mahjongg]

p.s. they are also selling them here:
http://thepihut.com/products/official-r ... fi-adapter

[mahjongg]

Perhaps, if you first formatted your card the right way, and then tried again. Its possible you formatted it without the re-size option on, and the card is filled with dummy partitions, which were not removed by formatting.

Ok. First, let my try BootBerry. I'll use Ethernet for now, but when I install the OS, can I switch the network option (From Ethernet to Wifi?) I just need to find or buy a wifi dongle, since my network supports both Ethernet and Wifi.

Always use wired ethernet when installing using NOOBS, also when plugging in wifi the wired internet will become disabled!
read the pitfalls sticky. its in there...

you might also want to read this:
http://raspi.tv/2015/new-official-raspb ... and-edimax

[FireDFL]

Perhaps, if you first formatted your card the right way, and then tried again. Its possible you formatted it without the re-size option on, and the card is filled with dummy partitions, which were not removed by formatting.

But I still don't understand. How do dummy partitions make the software read the memory incorrectly? My Mac and Windows can clearly read that there is a lot of empty space, especially on a 32 GB SD!

Hey, wait a minute. Since my micro SD is a 32 GB, does that affect it? It has been used once for an MP4 watch.

[FireDFL]

p.s. they are also selling them here:
http://thepihut.com/products/official-r ... fi-adapter

Again, out of oooorrrrdddeerr!

[mahjongg]

p.s. they are also selling them here:
http://thepihut.com/products/official-r ... fi-adapter

Again, out of oooorrrrdddeerr!

yes, i tend to post-edit my posts, read them again.

[mahjongg]

Perhaps, if you first formatted your card the right way, and then tried again. Its possible you formatted it without the re-size option on, and the card is filled with dummy partitions, which were not removed by formatting.

But I still don't understand. How do dummy partitions make the software read the memory incorrectly? My Mac and Windows can clearly read that there is a lot of empty space, especially on a 32 GB SD!

Hey, wait a minute. Since my micro SD is a 32 GB, does that affect it? It has been used once for an MP4 watch.

32 GB cards are okay, but from 64GB onward the formatter will format the card as exFAT which isn't okay, they MUST be formatted as FAT32.

Noobs expects a single large FAT32 partition, (using all the space on the card for the single FAT32 partition) and will create other (linux) partitions during installing.
When the official sd-formatter is used without the "resize" option, it will only format the primary partition, and will leave all the other (linux) partitions untouched, which isn't okay. you MUST use the resize option when formatting.
Otherwise NOOBS just sees the tiny FAT32 partition, with no room left to (again) create new partitions.

[FireDFL]

Perhaps, if you first formatted your card the right way, and then tried again. Its possible you formatted it without the re-size option on, and the card is filled with dummy partitions, which were not removed by formatting.

But I still don't understand. How do dummy partitions make the software read the memory incorrectly? My Mac and Windows can clearly read that there is a lot of empty space, especially on a 32 GB SD!

Hey, wait a minute. Since my micro SD is a 32 GB, does that affect it? It has been used once for an MP4 watch.

32 GB cards are okay, but from 64GB onward the formatter will format the card as exFAT which isn't okay, they MUST be formatted as FAT32.

Noobs expects a single large FAT32 partition, (using all the space on the card for the single FAT32 partition) and will create other (linux) partitions during installing.
When the official sd-formatter is used without the "resize" option, it will only format the primary partition, and will leave all the other (linux) partitions untouched, which isn't okay. you MUST use the resize option when formatting.
Otherwise NOOBS just sees the tiny FAT32 partition, with no room left to (again) create new partitions.

Ah, I see! In the Mac, is the resize option there? Is it the Logical Address Adjustment?

[fruitoftheloom]

Ah, I see! In the Mac, is the resize option there? Is it the Logical Address Adjustment?

The ""format size adjustment ON" option is in the SDCard Formatter Software

https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4

[FireDFL]

Ah, I see! In the Mac, is the resize option there? Is it the Logical Address Adjustment?

The ""format size adjustment ON" option is in the SDCard Formatter Software

https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4

I'm using the Mac edition of it, and it doesn't show it in Options. I did some research and it does say to turn Logical Adress Adjustment on. That must be format size adjustment. If it doesn't work, I'll use Windows.

[mahjongg]

yes, the windows and Mac versions use different terminology, that is probably the reason explaining the need to set this option is so hard.
anyway, the windows version has an option screen with two options. quick format and Format Size Adjustment, IMHO Format Size Adjustment should be enabled.
On a Mac the term overwrite format is used, the other option on a Mac is also called quick format, and should be left off.

The reason I suggest the Format size adjustment aka overwrite format option should be used is that having read numerous posts this is what seems to work, but in fact it seems I'm wrong about it having to do with "recognizing and deleting other partitions", as that isn't what the manual said about this option. Still, I recommend you try formatting with it turned on, and obviously not using any quick format (which usually only resets the directory structure).