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RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:46 pm

Ran rpi-update tonight which updated to latest firmware, commit 9e69b79f484fe005d7eca698962f3ee27fa00aaf after which the RPi2 boot failed (hung) at the "setting ondemand governer" (or similar?) console message. Retried several times - always failed, sometimes with (HDMI) screen corruption.

Holding down SHIFT key allowed the boot to succeed.

Restored to previous commit 8ddfa1f9eba8a207724644b22255597757dbcb75 as per instructions here:

http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/qu ... 5919#15919

and now booting fine.

non-commented config.txt as below (codec keys redacted..).

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arm_freq=1000
core_freq=500
sdram_freq=500
over_voltage=2
arm_freq_min=400
sdram_freq_min=250
core_freq_min=250

decode_MPG2=xxxxxxxx
decode_WVC1=xxxxxxxx
gpu_mem=128
Brgds

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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:39 am

oh man...now i'm worried I bricked mine :(

I can't update :(

crashes during download each time. Any thoughts? Any other way to perform a firmware update (to go backwords)?

I didn't think you could brick these this easy...kind of bummed out.

sudo rpi-update 8ddfa1f9eba8a207724644b22255597757dbcb75

Any way to apply this directly? without maybe downloading...or is there a safemode I can try differently?

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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:59 am

You cannot "brick" a Raspberry Pi. But you can corrupt the SD card. This is why it is recommended that you perform a backup of your card before you upgrade. Then you just return the card to the backup.

You may be able to wait for the next update then try again. Or you might just download the newest software and copy the boot files only over to your card. If you are running noobs this won't work.

I would not recommend using rpi-update unless you are working on stuff at the very edge. Just use update && upgrade.
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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:15 am

Also did this update earlier today, stepped away after I did the reboot and forgot to check on it, now it kernel panics every time I try to boot.

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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:26 am

I'm running my RPi2B with a USB hard drive. This firmware update gets a boot failure with the kernel waiting for the hard disk to come up ready.

A quick reversion to the kernel/firmware from the 2015-02-16 Raspbian version solves the temporary "bricking" (or as we say "nonresponsiveness").

It's yet another reason NOT to run rpi-update unless you understand what it is doing, how it might ruin your SDCard build & ruin your day and how to recover from a backup.

/boot/config.txt

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dtparam=spi=on
dtparam=i2c_arm=on

max_usb_current=1
initramfs initrd.sda
/boot/cmdline.txt

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dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=tty1 root=UUID=296e7e22-8bb1-4970-8dfd-c24fd4f03346 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait rootdelay=5
These are uname & version from my good kernel
uname -a
Linux apollo 3.18.7-v7+ #755 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 12 17:20:48 GMT 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux
[email protected] /boot # vcgencmd version
Feb 14 2015 22:23:03
Copyright (c) 2012 Broadcom
version 7789db485409720b0e523a3d6b86b12ed56fd152 (clean) (release)
[email protected] /boot #
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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:46 pm

I've tested rpi-update on my A+, B and the bug from yesterday is fixed.

But, my RPI2B (with the root on a hard drive) still fails.

9e69b79f484fe005d7eca698962f3ee27fa00aaf - poisonous
ff93337300068d3cddd7f823bc77c4eb954357c9 - runs on A+/B gives my 2B an upset tummy
8ddfa1f9eba8a207724644b22255597757dbcb75 - good to go
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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:05 pm

rpi-update downloads beta software. If you don't want to be a beta tester, don't use it.

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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:12 pm

pluggy wrote:rpi-update downloads beta software. If you don't want to be a beta tester, don't use it.

I got wise 2 years ago....
I'm a perennial beta tester, I've been doing that for 35 years, I'm not going to give up now.
Someone has to test this stuff in the field.
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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:28 pm

But the myth that its needed to update the non-existent "firmware" is allowed to persist.
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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:42 pm

pluggy wrote:But the myth that its needed to update the non-existent "firmware" is allowed to persist.
I know and this bug is a perfect example why the average, regular user shouldn't go anywhere near rpi-update with a forty foot barge pole. They should always wait until the kernel and "firmware" is delivered with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.

I have an interesting use case where my 2B with a USB SATA hard-drive in a cheapo carrier (from ebuyer) doesn't work with the latest rpi-update so I'll work with the Foundation folks to get that one fixed.
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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:06 pm

DougieLawson wrote:
pluggy wrote: I have an interesting use case where my 2B with a USB SATA hard-drive in a cheapo carrier (from ebuyer) doesn't work with the latest rpi-update so I'll work with the Foundation folks to get that one fixed.
lol! Is that because of the RPi USB though? My guess is there's something incompatible with the cheap carrier. Why don't you try a external USB portable drive from WD or seagate and see?
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Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:21 pm

electronicsguy wrote:
DougieLawson wrote: I have an interesting use case where my 2B with a USB SATA hard-drive in a cheapo carrier (from ebuyer) doesn't work with the latest rpi-update so I'll work with the Foundation folks to get that one fixed.
lol! Is that because of the RPi USB though? My guess is there's something incompatible with the cheap carrier. Why don't you try a external USB portable drive from WD or seagate and see?
Don't be stupid. It works with firmware commit 8ddfa1f9eba8a207724644b22255597757dbcb75. It's running right now.
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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:07 am

Lob0426 wrote:You cannot "brick" a Raspberry Pi. But you can corrupt the SD card. This is why it is recommended that you perform a backup of your card before you upgrade. Then you just return the card to the backup.

You may be able to wait for the next update then try again. Or you might just download the newest software and copy the boot files only over to your card. If you are running noobs this won't work.

I would not recommend using rpi-update unless you are working on stuff at the very edge. Just use update && upgrade.
man oh man.... I felt stupid
Jumped the gun on "freaking" out ...and over $35 LOL.
and I call myself a nerd....

Sorry everyone. Still really green here. Not afraid to code or play with stuff. I've been a .net person my whole life but now migrating to an everything person. So I love the little guys...just need to always have my backup plan in place for next time. I guess you hear the word firmware and you think...hardware ROM ..ect... (feeling foolish :| ) back up and running ...took me only until 2am to get all my stuff back to where it was.

distro updating? is that recommended?

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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:36 am

The firmware is not burned on the board as it is in other devices. It is stored on the SD Card. So a backup copy will return you to work, or play. A pretty smart design considering how often the "firmware" is updated on the a Raspberry Pi.

dist-upgrade is fine.

You might try downloading the current Raspbian and copy the boot files over to save your SD card. This often works.

Otherwise just burn the image over your card and start fresh. Once you have the language, time and keyboard set, then back it up.

Then back it up every so often so you do not lose your work. Backup before upgrading also.

We all have to learn this lesson, some of us more than once! :lol:

Do not use rpi-update unless you need it for something specific. New, stable firmwares come out with the upgrades as needed. Early on it was used a lot as part of the upgrade process. Now it is not needed to keep updated or upgraded.
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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:42 pm

DougieLawson wrote:
Don't be stupid. It works with firmware commit 8ddfa1f9eba8a207724644b22255597757dbcb75. It's running right now.
Again, it doesn't necessarily mean that its a problem with RPi's usb implementation. It could be, but maybe not.

When a new version of iOS was released, (I think it was ios 5), many car bluetooth stopped working. People blamed apple, but that version of ios had simply corrected something wrongly implemented in the first place in the bluetooth protocol. So Pioneer and other car bluetooth adapters had to issue an update to fix their hardware.
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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Thu Feb 26, 2015 11:59 am

electronicsguy wrote:
DougieLawson wrote:
pluggy wrote: I have an interesting use case where my 2B with a USB SATA hard-drive in a cheapo carrier (from ebuyer) doesn't work with the latest rpi-update so I'll work with the Foundation folks to get that one fixed.
lol! Is that because of the RPi USB though? My guess is there's something incompatible with the cheap carrier. Why don't you try a external USB portable drive from WD or seagate and see?
Looks like somebody has been adjusting quotes somewhere. I never wrote that. I've never bought anything from ebuyer and I've never used a HDD carrier with a Pi. Used a couple of 'bought as USB drives' a time or two.....

I never use the term 'folks' either, sounds like a "Dougie" to me :)
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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:13 pm

pluggy wrote:
electronicsguy wrote:
DougieLawson wrote: I have an interesting use case where my 2B with a USB SATA hard-drive in a cheapo carrier (from ebuyer) doesn't work with the latest rpi-update so I'll work with the Foundation folks to get that one fixed.
lol! Is that because of the RPi USB though? My guess is there's something incompatible with the cheap carrier. Why don't you try a external USB portable drive from WD or seagate and see?
Looks like somebody has been adjusting quotes somewhere. I never wrote that. I've never bought anything from ebuyer and I've never used a HDD carrier with a Pi. Used a couple of 'bought as USB drives' a time or two.....

I never use the term 'folks' either, sounds like a "Dougie" to me :)
I'm not going to try anything other than then USB/SATA carrier I've got, it works with my Viglen MPC-L, it works with my RPi2B with back-level firmware/kernel. I don't have unlimited funds so a free 160GB drive sitting on the shelf and a £8.56 USB 2.0 carrier is better than shelling out £50 for a funky new WD portable HD.

I've opened an issue on github.com and the Foundation are looking at it.
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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:24 pm

It should work with a carrier, a bought job is only a SATA drive in a carrier after all.

I've always maintained the Pi has USB issues, maybe not so much with storage these days, but don't get me started on USB webcams.
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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Thu Feb 26, 2015 12:27 pm

DougieLawson wrote: I'm not going to try anything other than then USB/SATA carrier I've got, it works with my Viglen MPC-L, it works with my RPi2B with back-level firmware/kernel. I don't have unlimited funds so a free 160GB drive sitting on the shelf and a £8.56 USB 2.0 carrier is better than shelling out £50 for a funky new WD portable HD..
Amen ! If you have the HDD why would you want to, I have 1/2 dozen floating about the place with various capacity drives in, would have cost me the GDP of Belgium to amass that many super shiny ones.. :)

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Re: RPi2 boot failure with 23rd Feb 2015 firmware

Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:18 pm

Folks,

Is anyone else having issues running the OS from a USB stick on the last two releases? Up until the 01312015 release of Raspbian I have not had any issues running my PI's this way. The last two release( 01312015 and 02162015 ) will only run from the SD card. I am stuck with running the release from 12242014 at this point. Any help would be appreciated.

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