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Zoom Support for Raspberry Pi 4 and Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop

Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:30 pm

As we have been forced to become an online society literally overnight, many students and families have no computers. The Chromebooks that are being handed out here are proving to be just another headache and increase the trauma for parents, students and schools alike.

I chose to develop a configuration of Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop for the Raspberry Pi 4 because it operates very fully and is the fastest, simplest and most reliable way to configure an interface that is enough like OSx to relax any user. I have been using since the day Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop was released for this device, with 100% uptime. I did this because I was already seeing a deficit in the number of households who could afford a reliable computer for homework. I set the configuration up free of charge and have a unit in the field now with three students who argue over who gets to use it next. I want every computer user who needs a computer to have a computer. That being said, here is the remaining issue in my part of the world.

The schools are using Zoom meeting and Goto Meeting to facilitate the online, instructor-led portions of their classes. Audio and video via computer are required. Phone traffic makes phone audio and video almost impossible. Providers were not ready for an online world to pop up overnight. Can someone please adapt the Zoom app to the Arm processor in the Raspberry Pi 4 for Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop? It is the only larger hurdle left. There could be a Pi in every home. Students love to buy additional cards and play with Raspian and other operating systems and learning from the many available projects. I will be willing to be the guinea pig for this, just please do this. I feel that this device will be living up to so much more of its mission than ever imagined.

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Re: Zoom Support for Raspberry Pi 4 and Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop

Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:58 pm

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Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:30 pm
Can someone please adapt the Zoom app to the Arm processor in the Raspberry Pi 4 for Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop?
just please do this.
It appears the source code is actually available. That is rare for a Windows app.

Your best bet is to probably use the Zoom Chrome app. It ought to work fine without a hassle.

The other option would be to compile the electron app, but if you want a easy and reliable way to do it, I would just stick with the chrome app.
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Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:02 pm

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It appears the source code is actually available. That is rare for a Windows app.
With that it may be possible to compile and run with Wine (no X86 needed). Or compile and run with Mono (if it's a UWP).
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Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:06 pm

DougieLawson wrote: With that it may be possible to compile and run with Wine (no X86 needed). Or compile and run with Mono (if it's a UWP).
I doubt that would end well. Considering Zoom is video chat software, I don't think it would playback HW accelerated. I think the best options are the electron app or the chrome app.
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Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:09 pm

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DougieLawson wrote: With that it may be possible to compile and run with Wine (no X86 needed). Or compile and run with Mono (if it's a UWP).
I doubt that would end well. Considering Zoom is video chat software, I don't think it would playback HW accelerated. I think the best options are the electron app or the chrome app.
I didn't say it's desirable and I have no point in doing that for three reasons 1) I don't have a RPi4, 2) I've got a perfectly good Win10 system and 3) I can't accept the faults in the Zoom security model.
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Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:12 pm

Zoom has no faults in the security, it's designed that way.
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Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:17 pm

DougieLawson wrote: I can't accept the faults in the Zoom security model.
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Zoom has no faults in the security, it's designed that way.
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Re: Zoom Support for Raspberry Pi 4 and Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop

Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:46 pm

dockvickers wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:30 pm
As we have been forced to become an online society literally overnight, many students and families have no computers. The Chromebooks that are being handed out here are proving to be just another headache and increase the trauma for parents, students and schools alike.

I chose to develop a configuration of Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop for the Raspberry Pi 4 because it operates very fully and is the fastest, simplest and most reliable way to configure an interface that is enough like OSx to relax any user. I have been using since the day Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop was released for this device, with 100% uptime. I did this because I was already seeing a deficit in the number of households who could afford a reliable computer for homework. I set the configuration up free of charge and have a unit in the field now with three students who argue over who gets to use it next. I want every computer user who needs a computer to have a computer. That being said, here is the remaining issue in my part of the world.

The schools are using Zoom meeting and Goto Meeting to facilitate the online, instructor-led portions of their classes. Audio and video via computer are required. Phone traffic makes phone audio and video almost impossible. Providers were not ready for an online world to pop up overnight. Can someone please adapt the Zoom app to the Arm processor in the Raspberry Pi 4 for Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop? It is the only larger hurdle left. There could be a Pi in every home. Students love to buy additional cards and play with Raspian and other operating systems and learning from the many available projects. I will be willing to be the guinea pig for this, just please do this. I feel that this device will be living up to so much more of its mission than ever imagined.

Raspbian Buster is the Operating System developed by RPT / RPF surely it would get more notice developing on this considering the outreach in education of the Raspberry Pi Foundation ??
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Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:05 pm

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Zoom has no faults in the security, it's designed that way.
I think that's a good corollary to my comment.
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Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:07 pm

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Re: Zoom Support for Raspberry Pi 4 and Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop

Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:27 pm

Botspot wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:58 pm
dockvickers wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:30 pm
Can someone please adapt the Zoom app to the Arm processor in the Raspberry Pi 4 for Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop?
just please do this.
It appears the source code is actually available. That is rare for a Windows app.
I'm afraid I don't think that's the application's source code (which doesn't surprise me too much - I would've been frankly amazed if Zoom was open source!). I had a dig around the repos - there's some SDKs for embedding a Zoom client in an existing application (e.g. zoom-sdk-macos, zoom-sdk-android, zoom-sdk-windows), some out of date API docs (api-v1 and api), lots of sample code (sample-app-node, sample-app-ionic, etc.) but have a dig into some of those and see if you can find the actual client - I can't.

For example, have a dig into zoom-sdk-windows and you'll find lots of pre-compiled binary bits under /bin, a pre-compiled binary under /lib, lots of header files (presumably for all the things you can call in the lib) under /h, and the only source code in there is under demo/.
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Fri Apr 03, 2020 12:58 pm
Your best bet is to probably use the Zoom Chrome app. It ought to work fine without a hassle.

The other option would be to compile the electron app, but if you want a easy and reliable way to do it, I would just stick with the chrome app.
The electron SDK also looks like it's full of pre-compiled bits for Windows and Mac OS only (dig around under sdk/ in there).

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Re: Zoom Support for Raspberry Pi 4 and Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop

Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:46 pm

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Re: Zoom Support for Raspberry Pi 4 and Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop

Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:28 pm

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Zoom does appear to work on Android so it could be worth someone installing Android or even Android Things on a Pi, giving it a go

there's also a web version
Guys! Why tinker with Android when there's a Zoom Chrome app that Just Works® ?
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Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:34 pm

What are you using for audio-in?
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Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:39 pm

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What are you using for audio-in?
Either the microphone built into my webcam, or I use my usb mike.
(I do video chats on my Pi 4 often)
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Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:56 pm

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Guys! Why tinker with Android when there's a Zoom Chrome app that Just Works® ?
For some measure of "just works".

Installed and started, I entered a meeting ID and name and it sits on a spinning "@ Connecting..."

Closed the Window and can't for the life of me figure out to activate the Zoom sign-in again - any hints ? - Start Menu, Chromium Apps - Still only spinning :(

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Re: Zoom Support for Raspberry Pi 4 and Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop

Sat Apr 04, 2020 11:32 am

Zoom works ,for me, without any issues on Android /iOS/ Windows. Tried it on Raspberry Pi 4 ,using various distros, and there is NO joy yet even on Ubuntu 20.04 :cry:
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Re: Zoom Support for Raspberry Pi 4 and Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop

Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:21 pm

I have found zoom to not work well with Linux. I have attempted An average budget computer with Ubuntu, and Pi4. Audio was choppy, and not great.

Besides, zoom is not the best. You have to pay for it. If you don't, you only get 45 minutes. A personal favorite of mine is Google Hangouts. I haven't got a camera yet, but have used with a USB microphone, and have found it highly reliable fo me. But as a believer of choice in the world of software, each to his own!
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Re: Zoom Support for Raspberry Pi 4 and Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop

Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:36 pm

I have installed the Zoom Chrome app on my Raspberry Pi 4. It starts up fine but when I try to join a meeting it just keeps spinning with the message "Connecting ...". Any idea how to fix this?

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Re: Zoom Support for Raspberry Pi 4 and Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop

Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:42 pm

Giga_Pi wrote:
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I have found zoom to not work well with Linux. I have attempted An average budget computer with Ubuntu, and Pi4. Audio was choppy, and not great.

Besides, zoom is not the best. You have to pay for it. If you don't, you only get 45 minutes. A personal favorite of mine is Google Hangouts. I haven't got a camera yet, but have used with a USB microphone, and have found it highly reliable fo me. But as a believer of choice in the world of software, each to his own!
Well Zoom is what is being used by our kids' school so I want to have another device that I can use it on.

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Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:24 pm

mshirvaikar wrote:
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I have installed the Zoom Chrome app on my Raspberry Pi 4. It starts up fine but when I try to join a meeting it just keeps spinning with the message "Connecting ...".
Same for me on a Pi 3B. The same Chrome App run under Chrome on Windows 7 connected just fine so it seems it's not an issue with my network, router, or what I'm connecting with.

Does anyone know if there's a log file anywhere or diagnostics which can be turned on which might show what's going on, what's preventing the connection ?


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Re: Zoom Support for Raspberry Pi 4 and Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop

Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:39 pm

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Try a different approach as I said in some other thread

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/view ... 6&start=50
It would be better to get Zoom working on a Pi under Chromium if we could. It seems to work to some degree for some but not all. Would be nice to know why and fix that.

I'd personally use Windows where it seems to work just fine if I wanted a different approach and that's much easier than faffing about with an Android phone. Especially as all mine have one camera, on the back, not the front.

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Re: Zoom Support for Raspberry Pi 4 and Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop

Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:34 am

hippy wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 7:39 pm
WODAK wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:36 pm
Try a different approach as I said in some other thread

viewtopic.php?f=91&t=267946&start=50
It would be better to get Zoom working on a Pi under Chromium if we could. It seems to work to some degree for some but not all. Would be nice to know why and fix that.

I'd personally use Windows where it seems to work just fine if I wanted a different approach and that's much easier than faffing about with an Android phone. Especially as all mine have one camera, on the back, not the front.
I find Zoom doesn't work well under linux anyway. It could just be the way I use it (in the web browser), but some one needs to find what makes linux and zoom disagree (I'm afraid I'm not good enough to do that) .
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Re: Zoom Support for Raspberry Pi 4 and Ubuntu Server 19.01 Desktop

Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:58 pm

poggino wrote:
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I am trying to install ubuntu does not finish the installation is stopped. I have read that with the 4Gb ram B model it is not yet compatible, you can confirm if it is possible to install ubuntu and how it can be done.

Thank you
I actually installed Ubuntu last night to try and see if the Ubuntu Zoom Client would work. It does not since it's not made for ARM.

I have tried everything to get Zoom to work well with my RPI4 but it just isn't good enough.

Unless someone else has other ideas I am going to return the RPI4 and look at just sticking with a PC.

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