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Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:16 pm

Check it out:

https://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/GetStarted.htm

I'm contemplating giving this a try on my new Pi2

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Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:21 pm

acewiza wrote:Check it out:

https://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/GetStarted.htm

I'm contemplating giving this a try on my new Pi2
So you never bothered to read any other posts regarding W10 IoT Core which is well documented in its own Forum :?:

viewforum.php?f=105
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Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:44 pm

Nope. Right derelict and stupid of me, correct?

Guess I need to start spending alll day on this forum and learn it inside and out.

Maybe you could request having it moved to the correct location? I'm sure there's something useful you might consider doing about it, what with your immense depth and breadth of forum knowledge. :roll:

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Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:58 pm

Sarcasm detected... 8-)
Moved to correct ( Windows 10 for IoT ) forum, where this belongs...

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Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:11 pm

acewiza wrote:Nope. Right derelict and stupid of me, correct?

Guess I need to start spending alll day on this forum and learn it inside and out.

Maybe you could request having it moved to the correct location? I'm sure there's something useful you might consider doing about it, what with your immense depth and breadth of forum knowledge. :roll:
Thank you for the sarcasm, but it is clearly listed in the list of Forums ""Windows 10 for IoT"", and yes it has been moved so hope you can find it :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:34 pm

mahjongg wrote:Sarcasm detected... 8-)
Moved to correct ( Windows 10 for IoT ) forum, where this belongs...
Just wondering why it doesn't belong under Operating Systems?

I'll assume IoT is deliberately being marginalized inasmuch as is possible for either political reasons, or OS discrimination.

Unless of course, there is some other explanation...

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Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:00 pm

acewiza wrote:
mahjongg wrote:Sarcasm detected... 8-)
Moved to correct ( Windows 10 for IoT ) forum, where this belongs...
Just wondering why it doesn't belong under Operating Systems?

I'll assume IoT is deliberately being marginalized inasmuch as is possible for either political reasons, or OS discrimination.

Unless of course, there is some other explanation...
Windows Development Centre https://dev.windows.com/en-us

IoT Core is aimed at Makers / Developers etal and not End Users hence why it is not listed under Operating Systems
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Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:06 pm

acewiza wrote:Just wondering why it doesn't belong under Operating Systems?

I'll assume IoT is deliberately being marginalized inasmuch as is possible for either political reasons, or OS discrimination.

Unless of course, there is some other explanation...
To give the conspiracy theorists something to do...

There's still too much confusion in the press and elsewhere as to what "Windows 10 IoT" can do on the Pi :(

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Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:15 pm

acewiza wrote:Nope. Right derelict and stupid of me, correct?

Guess I need to start spending alll day on this forum and learn it inside and out.

Maybe you could request having it moved to the correct location? I'm sure there's something useful you might consider doing about it, what with your immense depth and breadth of forum knowledge. :roll:
Sadly for you, you will still need to learn to read and research regardless of where your original post/request lands.
Reading and research seems to be lost in the new way of doing things, its absence is particularly interesting given the educational intent of the Raspi Foundation.

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Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:36 pm

rpdom wrote:There's still too much confusion in the press and elsewhere as to what "Windows 10 IoT" can do on the Pi :(
+1 yes the press have not undertaken their homework
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Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:42 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
rpdom wrote:There's still too much confusion in the press and elsewhere as to what "Windows 10 IoT" can do on the Pi :(
+1 yes the press have not undertaken their homework
It's not helped with the RPi Foundation still claiming the Pi2 runs Windows 10.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/ra ... 2-model-b/

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Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:47 pm

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fruitoftheloom wrote:
rpdom wrote:There's still too much confusion in the press and elsewhere as to what "Windows 10 IoT" can do on the Pi :(
+1 yes the press have not undertaken their homework
It's not helped with the RPi Foundation still claiming the Pi2 runs Windows 10.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/ra ... 2-model-b/
+1 they definitely need to change the description https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:06 pm

GerritV wrote:Sadly for you, you will still need to learn to read and research regardless of where your original post/request lands. Reading and research seems to be lost in the new way of doing things, its absence is particularly interesting given the educational intent of the Raspi Foundation.
Yet the Foundation intent running an educational bent somehow gets lost on Internet denizens such as yourself, assuming insight or knowledge of any sort regarding total strangers. Even more naive is the notion how that would somehow relate to a Foundation's "intent."

But it's to be expected. Look how sad I am! :lol: Carry on.

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Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:11 pm

rpdom wrote:There's still too much confusion in the press and elsewhere as to what "Windows 10 IoT" can do on the Pi :(
There's little doubt in my mind it will do what they say it will do. Some things take time. Even with M$ behind it, affecting the hearts and minds of the hardware and software devout is at times, difficult to say the least.

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Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:34 pm

acewiza wrote: ...
There's little doubt in my mind it will do what they say it will do.
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You have the advantage of me there. What have Microsoft said Windows IoT will do on the Pi?
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 3:44 pm

acewiza wrote:
rpdom wrote:There's still too much confusion in the press and elsewhere as to what "Windows 10 IoT" can do on the Pi :(
There's little doubt in my mind it will do what they say it will do. Some things take time. Even with M$ behind it, affecting the hearts and minds of the hardware and software devout is at times, difficult to say the least.
And M$ has said, that it's going to be a Internet of Things OS made for developers for the Internet of Things.

They've already released a 1.0 version, it's probably not going to suddenly change to a desktop OS, and it won't be compatible with any x86 programs anyways, and the full OS, even built for the Pi won't run, because of the system requirements. It's would be even more slimmed down than RT.

The problem is that the press is reporting that it's Windows 10, and people obviously jump to the conclusion that it's full Windows, which it obviously isn't.

M$ had stated it's goals (an IoT OS). I don't think it's going to change.
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:02 pm

Could we at least remove the "10" from this inaccurately named, and dare I say, inappropriately placed forum label? :roll:

Let me know when I've made my point and I'll stop. :D

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Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:29 pm

acewiza wrote:Could we at least remove the "10" from this inaccurately named, and dare I say, inappropriately placed forum label? :roll:

Let me know when I've made my point and I'll stop. :D
"Windows 10 IoT Core" is the correct moniker

https://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindo ... 0-editions
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:54 pm

"Windows 10 IoT Core" is the correct moniker
I see why you feel obligated to say that, but I trust you realize how ridiculous it is.

Think of it this way: In politics, people claim to be something they are not all the time, and we are free to (and are expected to) call them on it. It should be (and in my world, it is) likewise with businesspeople.

Just because MS says it is Windows, doesn't make it Windows.
And some folks need to stop being fanboys and see the forest behind the trees.

(One of the best lines I've seen on this board lately)

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Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:01 pm

Joe Schmoe wrote:
"Windows 10 IoT Core" is the correct moniker
I see why you feel obligated to say that, but I trust you realize how ridiculous it is.

Think of it this way: In politics, people claim to be something they are not all the time, and we are free to (and are expected to) call them on it. It should be (and in my world, it is) likewise with businesspeople.

Just because MS says it is Windows, doesn't make it Windows.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I am not saying anything, I am quoting what Microsoft call it, please stop being a pain in the derrière :shock:
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Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:15 pm

acewiza
Just wondering why it [Win 10] doesn't belong under Operating Systems? I'll assume IoT is deliberately being marginalized inasmuch as is possible for either political reasons, or OS discrimination.
I thought the same. However I took it the other way: Why is an MS product being promoted by a charitable foundation at all? They have money enough to do their own promotion.

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IoT Core is aimed at Makers / Developers etal and not End Users hence why it is not listed under Operating Systems
In the context of the Raspberry Pi, conceived as an educational vehicle, what on Earth is the difference between "Maker/Developer" and "End User".

...yes the press have not undertaken their homework
Are you suggesting that the press should undertake advertising for MS products? For free? I'd rather they stuck to unbiased reporting of the news.

acewiza

Some things take time. Even with M$ behind it, affecting the hearts and minds of the hardware and software devout is at times, difficult to say the least.
One can only hope that this time MS fails "to affect the hearts and minds of the hardware and software devout". We did all that with the PC for decades, have we not learned anything from that?

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Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:35 pm

Starting to turn into a bash Microsoft, bash the foundation for not stopping Microsoft from porting/creating Win 10 IoT for the raspberry pi thread so time to lock it I guess before it turns into a rumble :)

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