Siamak
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Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:04 am

Hi every one,

I have downloaded the image of the new Win 10 for RasPi II.

Booted my RasPi with the SD card in it, very, very disappointing, nothing there to be able to test the Windows under that environment.

I am reformatting my SD card to do some thing more constructive, i.e VPN server.

Best regards
Siamak

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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:16 am

Siamak wrote:Hi every one,

I have downloaded the image of the new Win 10 for RasPi II.

Booted my RasPi with the SD card in it, very, very disappointing, nothing there to be able to test the Windows under that environment.

I am reformatting my SD card to do some thing more constructive, i.e VPN server.

Best regards
Siamak
It is Windows 10 IoT Core and has a dedicated Forum, please read

viewtopic.php?f=105&t=108914

Your expectations are too high as it is not Windows 10 Desktop Edition :roll:
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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:41 am

Somebody want to stick 'The Pi does not run Windows 10' in big letters across the top of every page in this forum.

In an ideal world it would never have been said in the first place.
Don't judge Linux by the Pi.......
I must not tread on too many sacred cows......

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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:32 am

pluggy wrote:Somebody want to stick 'The Pi does not run Windows 10' in big letters across the top of every page in this forum.

In an ideal world it would never have been said in the first place.
I am grumpy this week, but it was an interview made by EU taken out of context that stupid Journo's all regurgitated :roll:
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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:50 am

M$ should maybe do a Windows RT for the Pi2 and let everyone find out what a crock of s**t that was.
Don't judge Linux by the Pi.......
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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:21 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote: I am grumpy this week, but it was an interview made by EU taken out of context that stupid Journo's all regurgitated :roll:
You must mean the often quoted Eben comment:

"I think there's a sense that 'you're a real PC' if you run Windows."

It's pretty tough for the average Joe to reconcile an IoT OS with 'real PC'.

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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:40 pm

pluggy wrote:Somebody want to stick 'The Pi does not run Windows 10' in big letters across the top of every page in this forum.

In an ideal world it would never have been said in the first place.
As I said in another thread, the Microsoft FUD machine is working well. Now we shouldn't buy a Pi because it won't run Windows.

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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:52 pm

adlambert wrote:
fruitoftheloom wrote: I am grumpy this week, but it was an interview made by EU taken out of context that stupid Journo's all regurgitated :roll:
You must mean the often quoted Eben comment:

"I think there's a sense that 'you're a real PC' if you run Windows."

It's pretty tough for the average Joe to reconcile an IoT OS with 'real PC'.
There was a Video released where Eben was discussing MS using the RPi as a board to develop cross-platform apps.

MS choose the RPi 2B because Lumina Phones run a similar ARM CPU (Windows RT used a nVidia ARM CPU).

Obviously MS = Windows = RPi runs W10 Desktop to Journo's :lol:
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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:06 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:I am grumpy this week, but it was an interview made by EU taken out of context that stupid Journo's all regurgitated :roll:
The Foundation did their own fair share of hyping expectations, where they could have clearly stated that it was not a desktop Windows version. It's not really surprising some journalists got the wrong end of the stick. Some may say it was deliberately announced that way to achieve exactly that ...

https://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale
Because it has an ARMv7 processor, it can run the full range of ARM GNU/Linux distributions, including Snappy Ubuntu Core, as well as Microsoft Windows 10.

For the last six months we’ve been working closely with Microsoft to bring the forthcoming Windows 10 to Raspberry Pi 2. Microsoft will have much more to share over the coming months. The Raspberry Pi 2-compatible version of Windows 10 will be available free of charge to makers.

Is this a full version of Windows 10?
Please refer to WindowsOnDevices.com.
That could have been a simple "No" to clear up any confusion.

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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:41 pm

hippy wrote:
fruitoftheloom wrote:I am grumpy this week, but it was an interview made by EU taken out of context that stupid Journo's all regurgitated :roll:
The Foundation did their own fair share of hyping expectations, where they could have clearly stated that it was not a desktop Windows version. It's not really surprising some journalists got the wrong end of the stick. Some may say it was deliberately announced that way to achieve exactly that ...

https://www.raspberrypi.org/raspberry-pi-2-on-sale
Because it has an ARMv7 processor, it can run the full range of ARM GNU/Linux distributions, including Snappy Ubuntu Core, as well as Microsoft Windows 10.

For the last six months we’ve been working closely with Microsoft to bring the forthcoming Windows 10 to Raspberry Pi 2. Microsoft will have much more to share over the coming months. The Raspberry Pi 2-compatible version of Windows 10 will be available free of charge to makers.

Is this a full version of Windows 10?
Please refer to WindowsOnDevices.com.
That could have been a simple "No" to clear up any confusion.
Well if it sold another 1K or so RPi's good luck to the RPF ;)
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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:54 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote: Well if it sold another 1K or so RPi's good luck to the RPF ;)
No those 1000 RPi's will go into the junk box full of old cables and be wasted.

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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:00 pm

Yes, but a sale is a sale...
And some folks need to stop being fanboys and see the forest behind the trees.

(One of the best lines I've seen on this board lately)

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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:08 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:
adlambert wrote:
fruitoftheloom wrote: I am grumpy this week, but it was an interview made by EU taken out of context that stupid Journo's all regurgitated :roll:
You must mean the often quoted Eben comment:

"I think there's a sense that 'you're a real PC' if you run Windows."

It's pretty tough for the average Joe to reconcile an IoT OS with 'real PC'.
There was a Video released where Eben was discussing MS using the RPi as a board to develop cross-platform apps.

MS choose the RPi 2B because Lumina Phones run a similar ARM CPU (Windows RT used a nVidia ARM CPU).

Obviously MS = Windows = RPi runs W10 Desktop to Journo's :lol:
Seems to be true of a great many here who can't seem to read or comprehend anything beyond the first sentence of a paragraph.

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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:25 am

Hi everyone!!
I have been working on Raspberry Pi 2 board with Windows 10.
The first screen of Windows 10 IoT Core has been successfully displayed. But when I tried to connect the host PC running Windows 10 using Windows Power Shell ,an error occurred after running certain commands. I tried a lot but failed to connect to the remote machine.

Thanks in anticipation
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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:28 pm

Please remember that you have to run PowerShell as an Administrator. The rest of the steps for establishing a connection are described here:
http://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/w ... rShell.htm
Jonathan Tanner | Microsoft | Windows 10 IoT Core Insider Preview Support | This posting is provided 'as is' with no warranties and confers no rights.

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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:43 pm

Siamak wrote:Hi every one,

I have downloaded the image of the new Win 10 for RasPi II.

Booted my RasPi with the SD card in it, very, very disappointing, nothing there to be able to test the Windows under that environment.

I am reformatting my SD card to do some thing more constructive, i.e VPN server.

Best regards
Siamak
Windows 10 Mobile works on the Pi2.

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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:48 pm

pluggy wrote:M$ should maybe do a Windows RT for the Pi2 and let everyone find out what a crock of s**t that was.
RT 8.1 is excellent if you can disable Secure Boot(have the SecureBootDebug key for my Surface 2)
Porting RT to the Pi is a easy job(Implement the PTIMER HAL extension, took a day for the Odroid-C1).
An advice to the one which will try: get the hardware register base from the ACPI DT functions in the HAL exports structure.

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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:35 am

I suffered having to maintain a load of old Surface tablets, I got fed up of trying to explain why they wouldn't run **insert name of windows application here** to non technical users. It took M$ a while but even they eventually caught on and buried it.
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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:39 am

JRV wrote:
fruitoftheloom wrote: Well if it sold another 1K or so RPi's good luck to the RPF ;)
No those 1000 RPi's will go into the junk box full of old cables and be wasted.
Well thats good news for th wombles . :mrgreen:

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Re: Windows 10 For RasPi 2

Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:44 am

pluggy wrote:I suffered having to maintain a load of old Surface tablets, I got fed up of trying to explain why they wouldn't run **insert name of windows application here** to non technical users. It took M$ a while but even they eventually caught on and buried it.
+1 an aquaintence of mine bought a surface RT, well he had 3 in six weeks as the first 2 were faulty. Unfortunately every couple of months it has to be factory restored due to corrupted OS, he is hoping the planned final upgrade due out soon will make it "usable" for Cloud Computing. The quote was from him "it makes a good fly swatter" say it all ;)

Yes Windows RT OS is like many Windows OSes very buggy, and see no valid reason to run on RPi :shock:
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