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Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue (solved)

Fri May 08, 2015 10:37 am

It was a long pain in the ass to figure this all out.
I have the Flash.ffu file downloaded and also the Windows Imaging and Configuration Designer Installed.
I take a flash drive 2 different 4 GIG that has previously worked for the Pi.
Formatted it. Then preceded to put the image on the card and it operation failed unexpected error. It says to see readme file.
But then after that I get a pop-up window saying unknown card would you like to format it?

All the videos shown on youtube how todo this works no problems.
I've tried formatting it Windows and also using SD Formatter. I get the same results.
It starts to put the image on it and fails and get a pop-up to format it.

So can anybody tell me what's really going on?
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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2

Fri May 08, 2015 10:59 am

Ok I found out it is because of the card because I put in another one and it said it finished.
Although it is my 64 GIG card that doesn't work on anything but my pc. Not my Pi or phone or mp3 player.
And when I put the card in the Pi it doesn't boot up at all. Same as other OS images with "that" card.
I don't have many cards to choose from and this is always a pain in the ass also to figure out what cards are compatible.
Like I said I bought a HC 64 GIG card that is also useless. (prior)
So I don't know what todo here to get this working. I am stuck and need a new card? :(
How can a card that previously work with all the Linux images and not work with the Windows image?.
???????????
I Yi Yi!!!!!!!!!

At first I thought this would be pretty cool to have Windows 10 on my Pi 2 but this all turned out to be one hell of a headache and very frustrating and pain in the ass procedures. Now I am stuck! At least all the hard part is out of the way.
Sorry Windows not looking to good here guys.

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2

Fri May 08, 2015 11:21 am

ScottieD369 wrote:Ok I found out it is because of the card because I put in another one and it said it finished.
Although it is my 64 GIG card that doesn't work on anything but my pc. Not my Pi or phone or mp3 player.
And when I put the card in the Pi it doesn't boot up at all. Same as other OS images with "that" card.
I don't have many cards to choose from and this is always a pain in the ass also to figure out what cards are compatible.
Like I said I bought a HC 64 GIG card that is also useless. (prior)
So I don't know what todo here to get this working. I am stuck and need a new card? :(
How can a card that previously work with all the Linux images and not work with the Windows image?.
???????????
I Yi Yi!!!!!!!!!

At first I thought this would be pretty cool to have Windows 10 on my Pi 2 but this all turned out to be one hell of a headache and very frustrating and pain in the ass procedures. Now I am stuck! At least all the hard part is out of the way.
Sorry Windows Linux is still looking and doing much better then you have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As ALWAYS!
(LoL as I am typing this on my Laptop with Windows 10 on it. )
Windows 10 IoT can not be compared to Windows 10 Desktop edition, it is for developers.

You will need Class 10 SDHC Cards and many developers have successfully booted up a RPi2 B ;)

http://ms-iot.github.io/content/GetStarted.htm

Also Windows 10 Desktop Preview must be fully upgraded, change Microsoft Update to "Fast Update"
Rather than negativity think outside the box !
RPi 4B 4GB (SSD Boot)..
Asus ChromeBox 3 Celeron is my other computer...

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2

Fri May 08, 2015 11:42 am

Windows 10 IoT can not be compared to Windows 10 Desktop edition, it is for developers.

You will need Class 10 SDHC Cards and many developers have successfully booted up a RPi2 B ;)

http://ms-iot.github.io/content/GetStarted.htm

Also Windows 10 Desktop Preview must be fully upgraded, change Microsoft Update to "Fast Update"
Well sure thanks for rubbing it in my face that many other people have successfully tried and had no problems at all.
Your link doesn't help my situation. Like I mentioned I have everything needed to make it work. I've tried so far 3 different ways to put the image on the card your way and also Windows Imaging also that software found on this site RPiW10IoTinstaller_lite and each one has the same issue with card.
Also you didn't even answer my question how a card that works with other images not work with this image?
3 cards won't work but will work with any of the Linux distribution.
PS I am also not comparing Windows 10 to IOT how am I suppose to know what it looks like yet if I can even load it?
BTW Windows 10 doesn't work too good either it takes waaaaaaaaay toooooo long to boot!
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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2

Fri May 08, 2015 11:58 am

This is soooooo frustrating I feel like breaking everything on my room!

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2

Fri May 08, 2015 12:10 pm

Let's try to keep this on the topic of helping the OP out with their card imaging issues. I've deleted posts that discuss GUI.

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2

Fri May 08, 2015 12:34 pm

So how is it out of 4 cards I can get one of them to work but it's the ONLY card that doesn't work with the Pi?
But the 3 other cards I own work with the Pi and use other Linux OS on them GREAT.
But NOT Windows?????
This is a major problem!
I still don't understand this issue?
I don't want to be wasting $ trying to buy compatible cards! Playing the guessing game!
If this works for people how do they get the cards to work that has worked prior?
Without getting the error and formatting issue?

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2

Fri May 08, 2015 1:16 pm

fruitoftheloom wrote:You will need Class 10 SDHC Cards and many developers have successfully booted up a RPi2 B ;)

http://ms-iot.github.io/content/GetStarted.htm

Also Windows 10 Desktop Preview must be fully upgraded, change Microsoft Update to "Fast Update"
Where are these people who have successfully booted Windows 10 on RPi?
I went through now 6 cards in my household and none of them work!

I want to blame Windows and I also want to blame Raspberry Pi Also Micro SD card manufactures?
They always say it's "Easy".
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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 08, 2015 1:27 pm

Perhaps it's not an SD card issue? How are you certain that the SD card is the issue? I had no problem following the instructions and creating a bootable SD with a 8gb class 10 card.

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 08, 2015 1:46 pm

My advice:
  • have a nice cup of tea
  • calm down
  • start from scratch -- read the instructions again (for instance you seem to have missed point 4 which says you need an " 8gb Class 10 (or better) micro SD card." )
  • when asking for help do it in a polite and calm way
  • state the problem calmly and concisely and in detail
  • have another cup of tea and wait for help
  • remain calm as help may occur over the course of a few days, not hours.

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 08, 2015 6:18 pm

MattRichardson wrote:Perhaps it's not an SD card issue? How are you certain that the SD card is the issue? I had no problem following the instructions and creating a bootable SD with a 8gb class 10 card.
Because like I said if you read at the top that I was able to fully put an image on to my 64 GIG card without errors and image is fully there.

ALTHOUGH that is the ONLY card that doesn't work with the Pi that I bought and wasted $ on!
Like I mentioned that card doesn't want to read on anything but my PC. It won't work or read on my Pi or MP3 player.

That's how I know it is a memory card thing. That's why I am really mad that I have 3 other cards that DO work on my Pi with Linux images but not for the Windows image.

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 08, 2015 6:19 pm

clive wrote:My advice:
  • have a nice cup of tea
  • calm down
  • start from scratch -- read the instructions again (for instance you seem to have missed point 4 which says you need an " 8gb Class 10 (or better) micro SD card." )
  • when asking for help do it in a polite and calm way
  • state the problem calmly and concisely and in detail
  • have another cup of tea and wait for help
  • remain calm as help may occur over the course of a few days, not hours.
This doesn't help at all man sorry..............

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 08, 2015 6:38 pm

It's very confusing to put your whole story together because you've posted a few different times, doling information out piecemeal and adding lots of drama. Let's just stick to the facts so that someone who might know the answer can help (and correct me if any of these are wrong):
  • You have four microSD cards, three are 4gb cards and one is a 64gb card.
  • When you try to image any of the 4gb cards, you get an error with the card-writing process.
  • When you try to image the 64gb card, you don't get an error with the card-writing process, but the card doesn't work in the Raspberry Pi.
  • You haven't tried an 8gb Class 10 card yet.
When you try to power on the Raspberry Pi with the 64gb card, what happens instead of it booting normally?

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 08, 2015 6:56 pm

MattRichardson wrote:It's very confusing to put your whole story together because you've posted a few different times, doling information out piecemeal and adding lots of drama. Let's just stick to the facts so that someone who might know the answer can help (and correct me if any of these are wrong):
  • You have four microSD cards, three are 4gb cards and one is a 64gb card.
  • When you try to image any of the 4gb cards, you get an error with the card-writing process.
  • When you try to image the 64gb card, you don't get an error with the card-writing process, but the card doesn't work in the Raspberry Pi.
  • You haven't tried an 8gb Class 10 card yet.
When you try to power on the Raspberry Pi with the 64gb card, what happens instead of it booting normally?
Yes all correct. No I don't own a 8 gb card that's all I have are the 4 but I borrowed another 4 gb to try and that also didn't work.
The 64 gb card never worked. It doesn't boot up at all(Black screen no input detected). But that is normal with that card like I said I never was able to put anything on there and run it on another device. BTW all info about my situation is in the top 2 posts. All what I have tried. My first one before I tried the 64 gb card. Then I did the 64 gb card and it didn't error out. So I then tried to put in Pi and boot and it did the same as it did with the Linux images not boot at all blank screen because it doesn't like that card. That's why I put the next post saying it is a card supporting issue.

But my confusion is Why a card that always worked fine with the Pi for ALL Linux images and NOT Windows 10?
To me it seems as if It needs a bigger card like you said maybe try an 8 gb? But the only bigger card I have is the 64 gb and that is useless anyways. But I think I heard that it should work on a 4 gb card?
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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 08, 2015 7:13 pm

ScottieD369 wrote:Yes all correct. No I don't own a 8 gb card that's all I have are the 4 but I borrowed another 4 gb to try and that also didn't work.
The 64 gb card never worked. It doesn't boot up at all(Black screen no input detected). But that is normal with that card like I said I never was able to put anything on there and run it on another device.
Great. My suggestion would be to await replies to this thread. Someone out there may have advice about how you could get things working with the microSD cards you have available to you, but please be patient. In case it's not possible to do this with the cards you have available to you, I would suggest finding an 8gb class 10 card to use. The signal-to-noise ratio in this thread is very low and it makes it hard to help you. Therefore, I'd also suggest not replying unless you have new information that might help figure it out.

Here's where things stand:
  • You have four microSD cards, three are 4gb cards and one is a 64gb card.
  • When you try to image any of the 4gb cards, you get an error with the card-writing process.
  • When you try to image the 64gb card, you don't get an error with the card-writing process, but the card doesn't work in the Raspberry Pi, you get a black screen and no HDMI signal detected from the Raspberry Pi. (You've never been able to use this card with the Raspberry Pi anyway.)
  • You haven't tried an 8gb Class 10 card yet.

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 08, 2015 7:24 pm

When I tried formatting my 64GB microSD card, I realised that Windows or SDFormatter will ALWAYS format it as exFAT no matter what I try. So I had to format it manually to FAT by using diskpart, copy the files (or flash the image), and success! Finally :lol:

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 08, 2015 7:27 pm

Yes thank you and yes I am now trying to find another card to use that is higher than 4 gb to use. If I can find one. I can't afford to buy new ones.
So I am pretty sure it then would work?
But we'll see. I will be checking back and updating my process.
Can you or anybody verify that it works on a 4gb card? Because I think that's all the problem might be? Since it does write to my 64 gb card fine but not load image. Since that's my issue it won't write on my 4 gb cards. Since my 64 gb card was never supported by Pi apparently. The image never displays like it did with the other Linux. So my guess is Windows is requiring you to go higher to make their image.
* It could take me days to weeks until maybe I can get another card soooo?.....Unknown?

Well my phone has no card Windows phone of course. Also my friends have iPhone and no card. My friend gave my their old card was 16gb but it was corrupted and the card is permanently locked and won't let me format it. So I'm back to square one again finding another card.
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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 08, 2015 7:32 pm

C-Fu wrote:When I tried formatting my 64GB microSD card, I realised that Windows or SDFormatter will ALWAYS format it as exFAT no matter what I try. So I had to format it manually to FAT by using diskpart, copy the files (or flash the image), and success! Finally :lol:
Nope I've tried formatting it in FAT, FAT32, NTFS, exFAT and nothing same issue.
But because what you said it does help my theory about the size issue.
Windows imaging don't like 4gb cards.
Since I've heard so far that it works on a 8gb, 32gb, 64gb, 128gb.
Basically anything > 4gb seems to work but when I finally get a working card I will finalize this theory.

Although C-Fu you "should" be formatting it in FAT32.

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 08, 2015 10:42 pm

ScottieD369 wrote:
clive wrote:My advice:
  • have a nice cup of tea
  • calm down
  • start from scratch -- read the instructions again (for instance you seem to have missed point 4 which says you need an " 8gb Class 10 (or better) micro SD card." )
    ...
This doesn't help at all man sorry..............
That's because you didn't read it (or chose to ignore it.) The third line specifically tells you that you need an 8Gb card at least. It says this in step 4 of the the instructions at https://ms-iot.github.io/content/win10/SetupRPI.htm that you should have followed and were told to follow. Yet several posts on you are still asking:
Can you or anybody verify that it works on a 4gb card? Because I think that's all the problem might be?
So I'm at a bit of a loss now TBH, I'm going for a nice cup of tea :)

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 08, 2015 10:50 pm

OK Thank you.
But I swear I saw somewhere somebody had it on a 4gb card?
But unfortunately that is all I have at the moment.
If I could use something higher I would.
Also buying that 64gb card that isn't supported by the Pi really sucks.
But you verified the size issue for me I appreciate it.
But that link I was referring to the process because there is more than one way to image the card.
So I apologize to you about that. Maybe you should have said that the first time.That it is stated 8gb or higher in the DOC.
I must have overlooked that because being working on this all night and no sleep many hours staring at the screen.

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 08, 2015 11:26 pm

PM me your address and I'll send you an 8Gb card already imaged...

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Sat May 09, 2015 3:42 am

PS out of the 3 ways to image the Windows 10 file my prefer way is using the Windows Imaging Configuration Designer. It's real simple and fast.

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Fri May 15, 2015 11:54 pm

clive wrote:PM me your address and I'll send you an 8Gb card already imaged...

Please would you help me installing it .. would you send it to me ... I have the same issue ..
i have installed it on a lexar sd card ..with 90MB speed class 10 .. nothing happened
the installation process tells you you need only windows 10 right no special softwares ???

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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue

Sat May 16, 2015 12:07 am

buamod wrote:Please would you help me installing it .. would you send it to me ... I have the same issue ..
i have installed it on a lexar sd card ..with 90MB speed class 10 .. nothing happened
the installation process tells you you need only windows 10 right no special softwares ???
It's 8GB or more buamod.
No it's not ONLY Windows 10. You have to download the SDK and ADK That will include the Windows Imaging software. Or you can image it through command prompt or another software that is posted in the forums here. I have found 3 ways to do it.
But Yes you must have Windows 10. Also the get the image you need to sign certificates in order to download that. It actually alot of work. Flash.ffu is the filename.
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Re: Win 10 on Pi 2 Micro SD card issue [SOLVED]

Sat May 16, 2015 12:31 am

Slight correction, you can install from Windows 7 and 8 as well. You must of course have the WinIoT .ffu file to load onto the SD card.

The dism.exe tool is available from the ADK (not SDK) from here: (near bottom of page) https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-gb/window ... 13721.aspx

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