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by Gavinmc42
Mon May 01, 2017 4:54 am
Forum: Beginners
Topic: I think I got the wrong device!
Replies: 9
Views: 1705

Re: I think I got the wrong device!

... for a low price desktop Vapour reflow setup. In the muliticore Pi's each Arm core has a local timer, I have a theory this could be used for a RTOS. The only example that makes sense to me so far is the Ultibo Multicore example, not even going to bother doing this under Linux. My brain only ...
by kusti8
Mon May 01, 2017 12:08 am
Forum: Beginners
Topic: I think I got the wrong device!
Replies: 9
Views: 1705

Re: I think I got the wrong device!

... they come with a Adc, but more complex things later. If you don't need bit accuracy, the Pi is much more powerful. Very many people don't need a RTOS with the Pi.
by SatanicEngineer
Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:42 pm
Forum: Beginners
Topic: I think I got the wrong device!
Replies: 9
Views: 1705

I think I got the wrong device!

... W based on form factor alone. I expected roughly the same kind of board as a Nano but faster proc. Oops! These Pi0Ws are linux laptops running an rtos! I mean, OTG USB ports?! HDMI w/ EDID!? :shock: Again, it's down to free time. I'll try to allocate a few (hundred?) hours learning what I & it ...
by scotty101
Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:35 am
Forum: Advanced users
Topic: Running Functions Concurrently
Replies: 1
Views: 440

Re: Running Functions Concurrently

... time'. The luxury of being able to do this comes about because of the underlying operating system which manages the execution of each thread. 3. RTOS. Real Time Operating Systems such as FreeRTOS allow you to create tasks and schedule them to run every x milliseconds. Different tasks can communicate ...
by Gavinmc42
Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:49 pm
Forum: Advanced users
Topic: Any hardware mod on PI Zero W to reduce power?
Replies: 3
Views: 1193

Re: Any hardware mod on PI Zero W to reduce power?

... power mode. VC4 hands controls to the Arm. Can it be handed back for sleep mode? Going to lose the OS code in Dram if that is turned off. Small RTOS in cache? The only simple solution I have thought of is turn power off completely and have something else waking the Pi up periodically.
by joan
Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:23 pm
Forum: C/C++
Topic: Hardware interrupts using C
Replies: 26
Views: 19926

Re: Hardware interrupts using C

... = 280us tmax = 511us Jessie driver space: tmin = 6us tave = 12us tmax = 43us You will have to look around for quoted response times for some Pi RTOS systems. The user space figures seem too high to me, I usually get timings of 50-100µs between a GPIO level change and the userland process waiting ...
by LdB
Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:50 pm
Forum: C/C++
Topic: Hardware interrupts using C
Replies: 26
Views: 19926

Re: Hardware interrupts using C

Most non RTOS O/S behave that way when the USB or Drive access is used in that way, there is nothing unique about Raspbian in that regard. If you are doing stuff that is that time critical you shouldn't be dealing with it that ...
by Gavinmc42
Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:33 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Operative System for IoT application
Replies: 4
Views: 1264

Re: Operative System for IoT application

Prototype with Raspbian Linux. 4-8GBs Field tests with piCore Linux. <100MB Port to FreeRTOS <10's MB? Production with Ultibo DIY OS <3MB Do it in stages, stop at the one you are happy with. I skipped the RTOS stage as my production/testing is mainly for one off IoT ...
by mikronauts
Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:51 pm
Forum: Automation, sensing and robotics
Topic: Real time application with task time of less than 50us
Replies: 11
Views: 2234

Re: Real time application with task time of less than 50us

... the realities of Linux and ARM based SOC's limit what can easily be done. Hello. Would you please tell me that, which of the Real time patchs and RTOS that are implemented for Raspberry Pi are capable of doing task with maximum duration time of 50us (maximum latency of 5us) for example http://www.frank-durr.de/?p=203 ...
by vgs1988
Tue Apr 04, 2017 3:34 pm
Forum: Automation, sensing and robotics
Topic: Real time application with task time of less than 50us
Replies: 11
Views: 2234

Re: Real time application with task time of less than 50us

Dear Gavinmc42

Thanks for your answer

Is there any information of maximum latency of Free RTOS?

It seems that Ultibo can be a choice for implementing real time (below 50us). Is it proper for my application? Where can I find documentation about running it on raspberry pi 2 b?
by vgs1988
Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:54 pm
Forum: Automation, sensing and robotics
Topic: Real time application with task time of less than 50us
Replies: 11
Views: 2234

Re: Real time application with task time of less than 50us

... much? Thanks Gavinmc42 for introducing ultibo, but I think I am really far from being an expert in that field. What if I switch to a commerical RTOS? Is there a done work for raspberry pi?
by jamesh
Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:05 am
Forum: Automation, sensing and robotics
Topic: Real time application with task time of less than 50us
Replies: 11
Views: 2234

Re: Real time application with task time of less than 50us

I doubt Linux can do that. You might be able to write bare metal code that could do it, or find a proper RTOS that has been ported to the Pi.
by vgs1988
Tue Apr 04, 2017 8:18 am
Forum: Automation, sensing and robotics
Topic: Real time application with task time of less than 50us
Replies: 11
Views: 2234

Real time application with task time of less than 50us

Hello. Would you please tell me that, which of the Real time patchs and RTOS that are implemented for Raspberry Pi are capable of doing task with maximum duration time of 50us (maximum latency of 5us) for example http://www.frank-durr.de/?p=203 says that RT ...
by i486
Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:42 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: fast bootup time os to run on Pi Zero W?
Replies: 11
Views: 4086

Re: fast bootup time os to run on Pi Zero W?

Maybe RISC OS? I remember there was RTOS in the past...
by Gavinmc42
Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:41 am
Forum: Bare metal, Assembly language
Topic: VC core vc ARM benchmark
Replies: 33
Views: 6383

Re: VC core vc ARM benchmark

Vpu runs an rtos, multithreaded, fairly responsive. But not easy to write code for, especially the quads. And cannot really add code to current firmware without access​ to source code. But say I did not want any graphics, hdmi, ...
by jamesh
Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:34 am
Forum: Bare metal, Assembly language
Topic: VC core vc ARM benchmark
Replies: 33
Views: 6383

Re: VC core vc ARM benchmark

... tick, QPU assembler tick, what else is needed? Pi Zero - 1 ARM cores, 2 x VPU's, 12 x QPU's (48 ALU's?). What benchmark to use? Vpu runs an rtos, multithreaded, fairly responsive. But not easy o write code for, especially the quads. And cannot really add code to current firmware without ...
by Gavinmc42
Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:44 am
Forum: Beginners
Topic: Need 6 output & 8 input accurate PWM pin on Raspberry Pi
Replies: 8
Views: 2079

Re: Need 6 output & 8 input accurate PWM pin on Raspberry Pi

... ways could be to get the VC4 doing the GPIO. But I'm not sure if the VPU's are documented enough. But it is known to run ThreadX which is a RTOS. We know the GPU can drive DPI LCDs, these are synchronous? LCD data is just a waveform of parallel bits. SMI memory mode could be another way ...
by vgs1988
Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:11 pm
Forum: Beginners
Topic: Need 6 output & 8 input accurate PWM pin on Raspberry Pi
Replies: 8
Views: 2079

Re: Need 6 output & 8 input accurate PWM pin on Raspberry Pi

... number of frequencies were possible to be generated. Is it possible for you to develop this? ( and if yes with more accuracy). About using RTOS on raspberry pi, what is your opinion about that. Thanks in advance
by joan
Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:02 pm
Forum: Beginners
Topic: Need 6 output & 8 input accurate PWM pin on Raspberry Pi
Replies: 8
Views: 2079

Re: Need 6 output & 8 input accurate PWM pin on Raspberry Pi

Pigpio has less than 6 hardware pwm pin, so I have trouble in output pins too. Some methods suggest that I should use real time kernerl like "Free RTOS" and boot them on raspberry pi. Do you think that using a real time system on raspberry pi can solve delays on timing and make soft pwm pins accurate ...
by vgs1988
Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:58 pm
Forum: Beginners
Topic: Need 6 output & 8 input accurate PWM pin on Raspberry Pi
Replies: 8
Views: 2079

Re: Need 6 output & 8 input accurate PWM pin on Raspberry Pi

Pigpio has less than 6 hardware pwm pins, so I have trouble in output pins too. Some methods suggest that I should use real time kernels like "Free RTOS" and boot them on raspberry pi. Do you think that using a real time system on raspberry pi can solve delay problems (cpu delays in fact) on timing ...
by DavidS
Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:59 am
Forum: Off topic discussion
Topic: Linux is huge, even when small.
Replies: 56
Views: 8793

Re: Linux is huge, even when small.

... has made SBC's that are affordable enough that people can have dozens lying around at home :oops: They don't have to run WinIoT/Linux/Unix/CPM/DOS/RTOS/RiscOS/RedoxOS. Thanks to Garry and many others anyone can make their own OS and know exactly what is in it and how it works, if they choose to. ...
by Gavinmc42
Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:31 am
Forum: Off topic discussion
Topic: Linux is huge, even when small.
Replies: 56
Views: 8793

Re: Linux is huge, even when small.

... has made SBC's that are affordable enough that people can have dozens lying around at home :oops: They don't have to run WinIoT/Linux/Unix/CPM/DOS/RTOS/RiscOS/RedoxOS. Thanks to Garry and many others anyone can make their own OS and know exactly what is in it and how it works, if they choose to. ...
by Gavinmc42
Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:23 am
Forum: Bare metal, Assembly language
Topic: Real-Time Thread in ThreadX on VideoCore
Replies: 8
Views: 5664

Re: Real-Time Thread in ThreadX on VideoCore

... Little Kernel on VC4? https://github.com/fuchsia-mirror/magenta/blob/master/docs/mg_and_lk.md LK, RTOS, ThreadX. We know ThreadX works :lol: Having Millions of Pi's out there is a platform for experimentation. The only thing stopping this is lack ...
by Gavinmc42
Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:41 am
Forum: Off topic discussion
Topic: Impossibilities.
Replies: 23
Views: 3740

Re: Impossibilities.

... TRON, T-engine, just had flashback http://www.t-engine.org/ What sits between a RTOS and a GP OS? Will it's colour be Fuchsia or Magenta? What is going to be the RT 64bit multicore OS of the future? Which University has a post grad ...
by Gavinmc42
Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:22 am
Forum: Bare metal, Assembly language
Topic: FreeDOS as RTOS?
Replies: 5
Views: 2712

Re: FreeDOS as RTOS?

... application called kernel.img Making a dedicated purpose OS as opposed to a General Purpose OS. FreeDOS is a GP OS but most people using a RTOS are doing it for a single application. GP OS's can run many more virus programs, RTOS are less susceptible to nasty attacks. That said my current ...

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