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by AMcS
Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:13 am
Forum: Other programming languages
Topic: Basic on the system
Replies: 40
Views: 6714

Re: Basic on the system

What does it really matter. The one thing it shows is just how precious you all are over your little system. You're also mistaking me for someone who actually cares.. (about BBC Basic) which I don't. So why are you banging on ... and on ... and on ... If you don't like BBC BASIC, and/or RISC OS, st...
by AMcS
Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:12 pm
Forum: Other programming languages
Topic: Basic on the system
Replies: 40
Views: 6714

Re: Basic on the system

the language, as implemented by Acorn on their BBC Model B and later extended in the case of the Archimedes and other RISC OS machines. <pedantic>That should be, "as implemented by Acorn on their Atom, and extended on their BBC Microcomputer, their Archimedes and other RISC OS machines." The roots ...
by AMcS
Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:56 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: gcc and RISC OS
Replies: 95
Views: 22755

Re: gcc and RISC OS

The A500 was like an archimedes pretending to be a PC by having a boring case - right? I think you're mixing it up with the A5000, Tim's machine would be quite a rare and interesting beast however: http://acorn.chriswhy.co.uk/Computers/A500.html Yep they are exceedingly rare, it was a pre-A310 Arch...
by AMcS
Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:49 pm
Forum: Other programming languages
Topic: Basic on the system
Replies: 40
Views: 6714

Re: Basic on the system

Nonstandard in that it does not do it the way that it is done in RISC OS BBC BASIC, and this makes a difference when talking about the RISC OS Version. Could you be more specific about things the Rosetta Code does that will not work in BBC BASIC on RISC OS. I have never used BBC BASIC for Windows, ...
by AMcS
Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:36 pm
Forum: Other programming languages
Topic: Basic on the system
Replies: 40
Views: 6714

Re: Basic on the system

Define standard. . In this instance "archetype", the original and first version of the language, as implemented by Acorn on their BBC Model B and later extended in the case of the Archimedes and other RISC OS machines. BBC BASIC 86, the predecessor of BBC BASIC for Windows implemented the BBC BASIC...
by AMcS
Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:22 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: Run Programs
Replies: 12
Views: 2549

Re: Run Programs

I have a second question. Can i expand the file system of RISC OS on the pi? Or doesn't RISC OS give the support? I read a few posts on riscopen, but they all say that you have to expand it on the sd card with gparted in linux. DNTPLS If you need more space another alternative might be to put RISC ...
by AMcS
Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:11 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: gcc and RISC OS
Replies: 95
Views: 22755

Re: gcc and RISC OS

ROL aiui took a different tack on hardware abstraction with their branch in not having a HAL but each platform requiring dedicated modules for all the differences in each platform they supported.(all two of them I think), While RO 5 uses the HAL approach which has enabled porting to five platforms ...
by AMcS
Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:06 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: Aemulor - 26bit emulator for Raspberry Pi 'PreOrders
Replies: 37
Views: 9027

Re: Aemulor - 26bit emulator for Raspberry Pi 'PreOrders

Hi, i know a lot people who switch from Linux to RiscOS now. RISC OS has an appeal alright, but there's no conceivable reason why people can't switch between the two choosing the more appropriate OS in a given situation - sometimes RISC OS other times Linux. All love the Pi with RiscOS and all say ...
by AMcS
Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:15 am
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: gcc and RISC OS
Replies: 95
Views: 22755

Re: gcc and RISC OS

Many thanks again David. I think I have enough information to get started but I also think I have one last question - you said: Next claim the centasecond timer, to do this call "OS_Claim" with hex &1C in R0, and the address of the routine that you wish to execute 100 times per second in R1, and an...
by AMcS
Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:11 am
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: gcc and RISC OS
Replies: 95
Views: 22755

Re: gcc and RISC OS

To the best of my knowledge the HAL was added by PACE for set top boxes, and later removed by RISC OS Ltd. for the RISC OS Select versions, though the Castle versions retained the HAL, despite the solution providedin RISC Select being more in line with the way that RISC OS works. I am not sure of t...
by AMcS
Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:44 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: Aemulor - 26bit emulator for Raspberry Pi 'PreOrders
Replies: 37
Views: 9027

Re: Aemulor - 26bit emulator for Raspberry Pi 'PreOrders

RISC OS things generally cost lots of money. It's this lack of community/sharing that puts me off in favour of Linux, since I don't have money. For hobby OSes like this*, people should program because they find it fun rather than for money. Most of the software available for RISC OS is *free* (as i...
by AMcS
Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:33 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: Aemulor - 26bit emulator for Raspberry Pi 'PreOrders
Replies: 37
Views: 9027

Re: Aemulor - 26bit emulator for Raspberry Pi 'PreOrders

Coders are no different from other people, they need paying. The reason kids do not want to code any more, is because they know most of its free. People need to see software as having value, the only way for this to happen is charge for it. Agreed, part of the problem is that frequently the efforts...
by AMcS
Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:07 am
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: Aemulor - 26bit emulator for Raspberry Pi 'PreOrders
Replies: 37
Views: 9027

Re: Aemulor - 26bit emulator for Raspberry Pi 'PreOrders

Coders are no different from other people, they need paying. The reason kids do not want to code any more, is because they know most of its free. People need to see software as having value, the only way for this to happen is charge for it. Agreed, part of the problem is that frequently the efforts...
by AMcS
Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:11 pm
Forum: Staffroom, classroom and projects
Topic: BASIC - more harmful than useful?
Replies: 899
Views: 166992

Re: BASIC - more harmful than useful?

pygmy_giant wrote:I'm so hungry I could eat - a beefburger.
If you find any beef in it please let us know, ok ? :D
by AMcS
Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:57 am
Forum: Staffroom, classroom and projects
Topic: Assembly - any use in teaching it?
Replies: 138
Views: 38407

Re: Assembly - any use in teaching it?

Who do the people who write assembler actually work for? That is the question! That sounds suspiciously like the only reason to learn/do something is if it's beneficial in getting a job. Thing is any programming language a school age child learns now will either be well obsolete by the time they ge...
by AMcS
Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:30 am
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: SWI documentation/info
Replies: 45
Views: 9636

Re: SWI documentation/info

Raspberry Pi RISC OS System Programming Book Thought it might be beneficial at this point to mention I am currently working on a my next book in the “Hands On Guide” series, provisionally titled, “Raspberry Pi RISC OS System Programming.” That's good news Bruce, if there is extensive (and current) ...
by AMcS
Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:24 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: SWI documentation/info
Replies: 45
Views: 9636

Re: SWI documentation/info

Like many others I would guess, while I'd heard of RISC OS before I'd never had such a machine—when they were new they were too expensive and, later on, it was obvious that RISC OS was in a state of terminal decline (or so it seemed, until the Pi came along, and gave it another chance). Agreed, I r...
by AMcS
Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:15 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: SWI documentation/info
Replies: 45
Views: 9636

Re: SWI documentation/info

I have not looked at it very much yet, though it does apear to be a partial solution. I think for a complete solution someone would have to put in a week and create a coplete IDE, and then however long to extend it to the needs of RISC OS Newcomers. I'd agree it is a partial solution, there's a lot...
by AMcS
Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:42 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: SWI documentation/info
Replies: 45
Views: 9636

Re: SWI documentation/info

Have you looked at Sourcery Yet at http://www.reallysmall.co.uk/Pages/normal/software/development/sourcery/sourcery.html Thank you for that. That is getting darned close to being a full blown IDE, and since so many developers are stuck on that point may help attract new developers. People are stuck...
by AMcS
Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:32 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: SWI documentation/info
Replies: 45
Views: 9636

Re: SWI documentation/info

microbitsuk wrote:Have you looked at Sourcery Yet at http://www.reallysmall.co.uk/Pages/norm ... rcery.html
Thanks very much for that Microbits, I'll give it a look.
by AMcS
Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:37 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: Browser options
Replies: 4
Views: 2225

Re: Browser options

Best (and most likely available option), but not immediately is a JavaScript enabled version of NetSurf.

And then there's the elephant in the adjacent room, HTML 5 and CSS 3 but I won't think about that issue for the moment :)
by AMcS
Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:30 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: SWI documentation/info
Replies: 45
Views: 9636

Re: SWI documentation/info

Even then, for creating GUI applications *none* of these tools is as easy to use as something like QtCreator. Or Lazarus. Or... Agreed, I've worked in Delphi in the past and use Visual Studio currently and the amount of convenience these supply shouldn't be underestimated. In VS, for example, autoc...
by AMcS
Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:19 am
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: SWI documentation/info
Replies: 45
Views: 9636

Re: SWI documentation/info

Lads yes the PRMs do need to be updated, however many functions haven't changed, the overall operation of the WIMP as described there hasn't changed so I'd argue that so long as the reader is aware that they can use the PRMs but need to check other sources as well . The PRMs still have value as they...
by AMcS
Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:59 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: SWI documentation/info
Replies: 45
Views: 9636

Re: SWI documentation/info

David the documentation, I think, should be targeted at the user. We need to know WHO is using the documentation and then aim it accordingly. By it's nature technical documentation is terse and not necessarily best for a newcomer, so from that viewpoint the PRMs could scare the beejepers out of the ...
by AMcS
Wed Feb 06, 2013 9:27 pm
Forum: RISCOS
Topic: SWI documentation/info
Replies: 45
Views: 9636

Re: SWI documentation/info

Don't forget the StrongHelp manuals; they're so easy scan through and search that a lot of the time they are much more useful than the PRMs. For SWIs in particular it's worth getting the os335 manual and the oslib one. See http://www.riscos.info/downloads/stronghelp/manuals/ for a loooong list. Yep...

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