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by PeterO
Mon Sep 23, 2019 3:09 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: RPI4: Why is everything still 32-bit?
Replies: 186
Views: 9303

Re: RPI4: Why is everything still 32-bit?

The rant isn't useless if 1 potential customer reads it and it makes them think twice. Disprove what I have written then. Send forth your best deniers and fanbois and we shall truly battle. I await... Mean whiile in the real world the rest of us are getting on with doing useful stuff .... PLONK ! P...
by PeterO
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:46 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: RPI4: Why is everything still 32-bit?
Replies: 186
Views: 9303

Re: RPI4: Why is everything still 32-bit?

davidcoton wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:32 pm
PeterO wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:28 pm
davidcoton wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:25 pm
If you had eight of them, could you make a 42-bit computer? :roll:
Eh ?
PeterO
Simples. Eight instances fill up another three bits.
Not sure which planet you're on, or what you've been drinking,but you're not making any sense !
PeterO
by PeterO
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:28 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: RPI4: Why is everything still 32-bit?
Replies: 186
Views: 9303

Re: RPI4: Why is everything still 32-bit?

davidcoton wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 2:25 pm
PeterO wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:54 pm
rpdom wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:00 pm

That's an odd number of bits.
It's both odd (not even) and odd (unusual) :-)
PeterO
If you had eight of them, could you make a 42-bit computer? :roll:
Eh ?
PeterO
by PeterO
Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:54 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: RPI4: Why is everything still 32-bit?
Replies: 186
Views: 9303

Re: RPI4: Why is everything still 32-bit?

rpdom wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:00 pm
PeterO wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:38 am
It would be remiss of me not to mention that I still maintain and use a 39 bit machine. It may be in a museum, but it still counts :-) (Pun intended :lol: )
That's an odd number of bits.
It's both odd (not even) and odd (unusual) :-)
PeterO
by PeterO
Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:38 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: RPI4: Why is everything still 32-bit?
Replies: 186
Views: 9303

Re: RPI4: Why is everything still 32-bit?

rpdom wrote:
Mon Sep 23, 2019 10:21 am
I spent many years working on 36-bit systems.
It would be remiss of me not to mention that I still maintain and use a 39 bit machine. It may be in a museum, but it still counts :-) (Pun intended :lol: )
PeterO
by PeterO
Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: Advanced users
Topic: RaspberryPi 4: heatsink or fan
Replies: 83
Views: 35106

Re: RaspberryPi 4: heatsink or fan

Because this was in reference to my earlier post?... You wrote "I find it very hard to believe that the Pi 4 will handle heavy desktop use without any throttling and without any type of cooling or heatsink." which to me reads that you've read that "the Pi 4 will handle heavy desktop use without any...
by PeterO
Sun Sep 22, 2019 12:08 pm
Forum: Advanced users
Topic: RaspberryPi 4: heatsink or fan
Replies: 83
Views: 35106

Re: RaspberryPi 4: heatsink or fan

Have you actually read any of the threads about fans and heat sinks ? PeterO Yes, and all 3 pages of this one. Am I missing something? No one has ever said that it will handle heavy desktop load without throttling unless you use some additional cooling (be that heatsinks (which just delay the throt...
by PeterO
Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:58 am
Forum: Advanced users
Topic: RaspberryPi 4: heatsink or fan
Replies: 83
Views: 35106

Re: RaspberryPi 4: heatsink or fan

BluPI2 wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:54 am
.but I gotta say I find it very hard to believe that the Pi 4 will handle heavy desktop use without any throttling and without any type of cooling or heatsink.
Have you actually read any of the threads about fans and heat sinks ?
PeterO
by PeterO
Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:30 pm
Forum: Graphics programming
Topic: How to start OpenGL for RPI4
Replies: 4
Views: 1618

Re: How to start OpenGL for RPI4

duicleme wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:52 pm
... How to start OpenGL for Raspberry Pi 4 .... I couldn't start OpenGL.

I am see Example and Excute but that messaging "RPI4 not Support"
We aren't mind readers !

You need to tell us much more info about what you are trying to do.
Where is the example you are using ?

PeterO
by PeterO
Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:59 am
Forum: The MagPi
Topic: Another dangerous item from MagPi
Replies: 1
Views: 1715

Another dangerous item from MagPi

Your tweet of a Pi with a relay board with exposed mains connections is really irresponsible. Do you not have anyone on your editorial staff that has a clue about Health and (Electrical) Safety ? :(
https://twitter.com/TheMagPi/status/1173886771328929792
PeterO
by PeterO
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:23 am
Forum: Off topic discussion
Topic: Pioneers.
Replies: 2
Views: 2488

Pioneers.

I had the chance to meet and chat with one of the great pioneers...

https://twitter.com/tnmoc/status/1173244229138681861

PeterO
by PeterO
Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:20 am
Forum: Beginners
Topic: Dual HDMI Output on RPi 4
Replies: 8
Views: 410

Re: Dual HDMI Output on RPi 4

That doesn't sound right. It should work twin headed "out of the box".

What exactly did you change in config.txt ?

PeterO
by PeterO
Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:14 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting
Topic: Raspberry Pi 4 temperature
Replies: 564
Views: 197937

Re: Raspberry Pi 4 temperature

rpdom wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:01 pm
bensimmo wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:28 pm
Why the new forum account?
Because the old one had been given a holiday from the forums and "pro" thought they could sneak past the rule by creating a new account?
With , one expects, predictable consequences !
PeterO
by PeterO
Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:47 am
Forum: Troubleshooting
Topic: Raspberry Pi 4 temperature
Replies: 564
Views: 197937

Re: Raspberry Pi 4 temperature

I switched tactics. I stopped, and then disabled the service that controls the fan. Now it just runs continuously when the Pi is on. My temps are now around ~40c with moderate use. Half what I was getting with just the heat sink. And more constant with no swings up and down. :D But only a 3% change...
by PeterO
Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:00 pm
Forum: Graphics programming
Topic: Documentation for VC6
Replies: 46
Views: 4723

Re: Documentation for VC6

https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.15/gpu/drm-kms.html I'm not sure why you think that posting a link to that huge page of kernel developers documentation is supposed to help explain things to non-kernal developers ? There is a growing problem here, that those in the know about the new graphics har...
by PeterO
Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:28 pm
Forum: Graphics programming
Topic: Documentation for VC6
Replies: 46
Views: 4723

Re: Documentation for VC6

So all work we do will now be on (F)KMS/DRM/MESA. I don't believe there is anything called "(F)KMS" ! Is it KMS or FKMS or Full KMS or Fake FMS you are talking about ? Someone needs to come up with better names ! And I thought the hardware still did openGLES 3.0 so saying "but the 3D is driven by t...
by PeterO
Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:45 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting
Topic: RPi 4 2GB - Cant set gpu mem above 600 / black screen
Replies: 13
Views: 1154

Re: RPi 4 2GB - Cant set gpu mem above 600 / black screen

## gpu_mem GPU memory in megabytes, sets the memory split between the CPU and GPU; the CPU gets the remaining memory. The minimum value is `16`; the maximum value is `192`, `448`, or `944`, depending on whether you are using a 256MB, 512MB, or 1024MB Pi. The default value is `64`. For the Raspberry...
by PeterO
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:40 pm
Forum: Troubleshooting
Topic: RPi 4 2GB - Cant set gpu mem above 600 / black screen
Replies: 13
Views: 1154

Re: RPi 4 2GB - Cant set gpu mem above 600 / black screen

navy1978 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:54 pm
I just received a new Raspberry 4 with 4GB and I have the same problem, any suggestion?
Yes, read the whole thread as the problem has been explained/solved already !
PeterO
by PeterO
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:37 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion
Replies: 928
Views: 111220

Re: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion

I've done a fresh install on an sd-card and found out something more about the problem.... The good thing is that I've been able to take a screen grab with the gimp where the cursor now shows up 8-) The bad thing is that the cursor is shown in the wrong place (except for one specific case) :roll: Th...
by PeterO
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:37 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion
Replies: 928
Views: 111220

Re: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion

I was using ps and it was't there. So I enabled it and then it was there so I know I was looking in the right place :-) Having it running made no difference to the cursor issue (or to black corners around the tool tip popups). If I can find a spare SD card I'll do a fresh install and see what happen...
by PeterO
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:25 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion
Replies: 928
Views: 111220

Re: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion

Can't think of anything else that may be different. But those black pixels around your tooltips make it look like an older version of xcompmgr is running. That and all the different theming makes me suspect our environments are quite different. OK, well it's all pretty much as standard out of th eb...
by PeterO
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion
Replies: 928
Views: 111220

Re: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion

It would appear that was how mine was set anyway as it made no changes to config.txt
xcompmgr isn't running anyway...

Oh well, it's not the end of the world ....

PeterO
by PeterO
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion
Replies: 928
Views: 111220

Re: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion

ShiftPlusOne wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:37 pm
I'm running with FKMS enabled and no compositing manager running, if that helps at all.
It would be helpful if you could explain how exactly you achieve that configuration. For those of us who aren't working with this stuff every day the acronym soup is hard to deal with.

PeterO
by PeterO
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:31 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion
Replies: 928
Views: 111220

Re: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion

ShiftPlusOne wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:21 pm
Is that using gimp, scrot or either?
Same result with gimp and scrot.
It happens with the mouse over other application as well.
PeterO
by PeterO
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:13 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion
Replies: 928
Views: 111220

Re: Raspberry Pi 4 Thread - general discussion

You can remove the 'untested' component and downgrade the relevant packages. If it causes other problems it would be good to know because it's likely to hit the main repo soonish. Sadly it's made no difference as you can see ... The cursor should be showing over one of the two "Continue" buttons. S...

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