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by ricl
Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:15 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Olympus DP22 Camera Drivers installation problm on Win10 IOT
Replies: 15
Views: 2149

Re: Olympus DP22 Camera Drivers installation problm on Win10

"Windows 10 IoT is NOT a full Windows system"

Wrong. It is just manufacturers of kit don't yet see the need to take the time and effort to do the work that was already done for Linux. Their fault, not MSs.
by ricl
Wed Dec 30, 2015 1:12 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Olympus DP22 Camera Drivers installation problm on Win10 IOT
Replies: 15
Views: 2149

Re: Olympus DP22 Camera Drivers installation problm on Win10

Some manufacturers have yet to get round to supplying drivers for IoT. Press them to do what you require. MS are not in a position to do this (at least not in public).
by ricl
Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:55 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Using the Raspberry pi with Iot as an access point
Replies: 1
Views: 869

Re: Using the Raspberry pi with Iot as an access point

You are more likely to get that sort of detailed information answered if you place the same observations over on the MS site.
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forum ... WindowsIoT

With that sort of detailed, targeted request, someone will probably provide an answer.
by ricl
Tue Dec 29, 2015 5:28 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Serial port support for the raspi?
Replies: 48
Views: 22340

Re: Serial port support for the raspi?

One of the projects I have underway with MS is to provide a 'no hardware'/ 'some small hardware' type of class based solution to problems in IoT. All running the same UI classes. As an example that started from a comment I made to a Hackster.io project to do with OneWire. 1. A simple GPIO version - ...
by ricl
Tue Dec 29, 2015 4:39 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Serial port support for the raspi?
Replies: 48
Views: 22340

Re: Serial port support for the raspi?

"WorkItemPriority.High"

or other options.

Always use Stopwatch (52 nSec resolution) rather than external signals to do timings in code. Less uncertainty.
P.S. I have obe of those cheap USB 8 bit parallel digital 'scope' myself (and a software oscilloscope).
by ricl
Tue Dec 29, 2015 3:47 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Serial port support for the raspi?
Replies: 48
Views: 22340

Re: Serial port support for the raspi?

There is no handshake implemented on the miniUart. The 1 sec read/write timeouts are unnecessary (in most cases). They do affect what happens quite dramatically. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.io.ports.serialport.writetimeout%28v=vs.110%29.aspx?f=255&MSPPError=-2147217396 EDIT: that...
by ricl
Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:13 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Serial port support for the raspi?
Replies: 48
Views: 22340

Re: Serial port support for the raspi?

That diagram is out of date and I have issue lodged over on GitHub to change it. Uart Rx/Tx are now supported from 10586 on. Any Serial over USB functionality you may need has to be built over that simple layer. That can be quite complex because of how USB to Serial is hooked up in 10 IoT. There are...
by ricl
Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:01 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: PI Win 10 & Internet
Replies: 2
Views: 901

Re: PI Win 10 & Internet

"Windows 10 IoT Core only supports a limited range of peripherals:" The link is to the currently approved list. MS are working on getting manufacturers to add their products to that list ASAP. It has changed continuously since launch with more and more stuff being added every day. Adafruit are helpi...
by ricl
Mon Dec 28, 2015 3:52 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Real Time Clock?
Replies: 5
Views: 3172

Re: Real Time Clock?

Please note that, like Linux, Windows 10 Core IoT also uses network time if it is available, straight out of the box. You should only need to switch to a local time server if, for some reason, the Pi cannot 'see' the outside world on boot.
by ricl
Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:04 am
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Win10 iot or not?
Replies: 18
Views: 3691

Re: Win10 iot or not?

Don't run an UWP app as admin. Run a Win32 server daemon and get the UWP app to talk with it I should have made that clearer in the original post. That is indeed the way I do things (and why I write so much code in C). Use a service(sc create command). You will be able to run with the account that ...
by ricl
Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:04 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Windows 8.1 control?
Replies: 2
Views: 781

Re: Windows 8.1 control?

To be accurate, Windows 10 is the only SUPPORTED option by MS.

Other solutions do exist and do work. They are just not part of the MS support set.
by ricl
Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:01 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Win10 iot or not?
Replies: 18
Views: 3691

Re: Win10 iot or not?

mimi123 wrote:Don't run an UWP app as admin. Run a Win32 server daemon and get the UWP app to talk with it
I should have made that clearer in the original post. That is indeed the way I do things (and why I write so much code in C).
by ricl
Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:09 am
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Win10 iot or not?
Replies: 18
Views: 3691

Re: Win10 iot or not?

"great NT security system" Hmm. The underlying NT permissions on the disk on the Pi IoT are there (try accessing Administrator folders from DefaultUser). They are however at present underutilised. You cannot run an UWP app with admin privileges except under debug if your VS is also running at Admin ...
by ricl
Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:08 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Win10 iot or not?
Replies: 18
Views: 3691

Re: Win10 iot or not?

"it apparently does not have full user/group security for multiple users."

Very true. The user model on IoT is very sparse at present. It may improve soon as all of the tools required are part of the OS and present, they are just not exposed in a User/Coding friendly way at present.
by ricl
Thu Dec 24, 2015 4:06 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Win10 iot or not?
Replies: 18
Views: 3691

Re: Win10 iot or not?

+1
by ricl
Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:34 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Win10 iot or not?
Replies: 18
Views: 3691

Re: Win10 iot or not?

Here on the IOT Forum you will (mainly) find those who have long term experience in Windows (and other OS going back in history in my case) or asking questions about how to get there. Sometimes you will find those who are more comfortable with Linux giving their assessment. This is often/sometimes w...
by ricl
Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:49 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Win10 iot or not?
Replies: 18
Views: 3691

Re: Win10 iot or not?

ame wrote:Not. Since you asked.
Then you make my case. You wish to stay with that which you are comfortable with. No problem. Do please try and not force/insist others to adopt the same outlook.
by ricl
Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:58 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Win10 iot or not?
Replies: 18
Views: 3691

Re: Win10 iot or not?

It's more targeted at NET programmers who are already used to languages like C#. Everyone here is biased including me, but if you've been using Raspbian happily, then you have no reason to switch. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you want to expand your mind to include other viewpoints then it i...
by ricl
Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:23 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: PanStamp under Windows IoT
Replies: 7
Views: 1675

Re: PanStamp under Windows IoT

I do hope that it is so.

The major problems come if the library implementations differ widely between OSs (as it can often do).

What you have in Linux may or may not translate easily (unfortunately).
by ricl
Thu Dec 24, 2015 11:42 am
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Win10 iot or not?
Replies: 18
Views: 3691

Re: Win10 iot or not?

For a wide range of examples of how 10 IoT is being used in Home Automation and other projects have a look at https://www.hackster.io/microsoft/projects and https://github.com/ms-iot/samples As to the merits of MS. Well the OS is free. The tools are free. Development does require a PC. The languages...
by ricl
Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:20 am
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: App runs from Visual Studio, but crashes when run direct
Replies: 3
Views: 1492

Re: App runs from Visual Studio, but crashes when run direct

The Web and IoTStartup are the ways to run UWP apps. If the debug version runs. Try launching that first as a test. That way you are not doing two steps at once, only one. So after you have deployed and run it least once from VS, just go to the Web interface, select your project in the dropdown and ...
by ricl
Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:10 am
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Browser Sample
Replies: 3
Views: 1025

Re: Browser Sample

Well it would appear that the NuGet part of what you have is not working. That is the most likely explanation of what you are seeing.

Are you absolutely sure you installed everything in the order as recommended by MS?
by ricl
Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:56 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Browser Sample
Replies: 3
Views: 1025

Re: Browser Sample

That looks like you haven't done an initial build. Part of that pulls stuff down (if/where required) to complete the code/library paths if not completed yet.

So, with fault free code, hit build and see if they go away.
by ricl
Wed Dec 23, 2015 6:43 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Serial port support for the raspi?
Replies: 48
Views: 22340

Re: Serial port support for the raspi?

48. Why is it that writing applications that contain 'async void' can be such a bad idea https://channel9.msdn.com/Series/Three-Essential-Tips-for-Async https://channel9.msdn.com/Series/Three-Essential-Tips-for-Async/Tip-1-Async-void-is-for-top-level-event-handlers-only for some examples of what asy...
by ricl
Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:40 pm
Forum: Windows 10 for IoT
Topic: Serial port support for the raspi?
Replies: 48
Views: 22340

Re: Serial port support for the raspi?

Well you have to understand what async does. It allows the UI thread to 'pause' continuation without being blocked. Things progress normally until the code reaches an await. It puts a bookmarker (task completion) at that point and resumes the UI loop. The Task finishes as some point. That is noticed...

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