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by jharris1993
Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:54 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

When I tried to use a backup as a raw installation source, the subsequent installation behaves "oddly" in subtle ways. For example GoPiGo O/S's ability to change WiFi modes from being a stand-alone access-point to being able to participate in a local WiFi network has been subtly damaged a...
by jharris1993
Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:41 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

I have one burning question about the way PINN sets up the various partitions of my - admittedly complex - configuration, though I bet this is relevant to virtually any PINN installation. Looking at the partitions using GParted, I notice that the FAT32 "boot" partitions for each image are ...
by jharris1993
Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:31 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

If 'sudo reboot 8' just boots into PINN, then it won't work on your pi4. That's odd. Procount, as we both know, the two of us have been working on my system - also a Pi-4 with 4 gigs - for what seems like forever, and the reboot commands work fine from the recovery console. I am not sure if "r...
by jharris1993
Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:25 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: How to back up a multiple partition image?
Replies: 7
Views: 288

Re: How to back up a multiple partition image?

First of all: Thanks for all the excellent suggestions! Even if they didn't work, I appreciate the ideas - maybe they'll work somewhere else. Second: rsync, followed by some form of compression - or perhaps tar followed by some form of compression, would be the best way to handle a simple system. Ho...
by jharris1993
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:47 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

A follow-up: I noticed an interesting artifact of the installation process: Given, an installation environment that contains four or five installation packages. Assume that all the installation packages have ONE graphic image slide except one, that has five or six image slides. During the installati...
by jharris1993
Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:58 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

SUCCESS! Thanks!!! Phew! Finally! I have to say that this has to be one of, if not the longest support requests I've ever had! :) You're right, it should not have been this complex. I'm sure most users don't have to go through this pain, but you have managed to test virtually all the advanced OS cr...
by jharris1993
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:37 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
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Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

Update: SUCCESS! Adding the "slides_vga" filder and adding a slide seems to have done the trick - backups are now working on my installed operating systems. Though, to be perfectly honest, I don't know if actually adding the one slide was required or not. I did it anyway. I am assuming tha...
by jharris1993
Wed Jan 20, 2021 1:33 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

But from your zip file, I can see the problem . You didn't create, or copy, any installation slides for your OSes, so there is no slides_vga folder for any of your OSes. It might be sufficient just to create the following folders: /settings/os/GoPiGo_OS/slides_vga/ /settings/os/Raspbian_64_bit/slid...
by jharris1993
Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:25 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

Update: We're making progress! We've now gotten past the point of it not allowing the backup. The backup process is still not working, but we've progressed a step. What's happening now is that when I go to make the backup it allows the backup, creates a name, time-stamp, and description and then whe...
by jharris1993
Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:56 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

Please just try this last update to installed_os.json first, as I think it will fix your backup issues. We've come so far...! I'll do that. Right now my system is chewing on backing up the other 500 gig SSD in case I need it. It's about 20 minutes from being done. P. S. The information in the "...
by jharris1993
Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:30 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

Update: I decided to do some additional digging. I have run into extremely frustrating problems in the past that turned out to be something really stupid, like spaces, or the wrong line-endings, or other stuff that's easy to miss. So, I examined all the configuration files for line-endings - and the...
by jharris1993
Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:07 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

FAT-16 is pretty standard and mature. It was chosen for NOOBS so that you can easily read/write the partition from Windows, so I've no idea why clonezilla is not able to process it. There is no intentional "poison pill" or lock-in. The backup facility is provided over and above NOOBS feat...
by jharris1993
Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:13 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
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Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

Sorry, I overlooked that file. Yes you're missing a line from os.json, which probably explains a lot. I modified os.json for you and deleted a couple of deprecated fields. { "supports_backup": true, } You need to copy this to your installation drive (for next time!), but also copy it to t...
by jharris1993
Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:38 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

You need to copy this to your installation drive (for next time!), but also copy it to the /settings/os/Raspbian_for_robots folder to allow this installed OS to be backed up. Stick with it. You're doing really well and I think you are nearly there. It's also helpful to guide me in updating the docu...
by jharris1993
Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:28 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

@JR - if you've not done enough reading already, I have updated https://github.com/procount/pinn/wiki/JSON-fields so hopefully it is more readable and includes some previously missing details. This is good. A couple of suggestions: First: There are a number of fields that have labels like "[m]...
by jharris1993
Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:17 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: How to back up a multiple partition image?
Replies: 7
Views: 288

Re: How to back up a multiple partition image?

Use Clonezilla. Clonezilla won't back up a FAT-16 partition. Therefore it cannot be used to backup a NOOBS/PINN created multi-boot environment. Have you considered rsync? It won't create a bit image like dd but can be used to back up multiple partitions to a series of directories on a backup device...
by jharris1993
Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:21 pm
Forum: Beginners
Topic: Run Clonezilla on RPi?
Replies: 2
Views: 3661

Re: Run Clonezilla on RPi?

You will obviously never get CloneZilla itself to run on the Pi Not true. Clonezilla exists in the Raspberry Pi/Raspbian O/S repositories. To backup something cold on a Raspberry Pi, all you need is to create a SD card image of a recent Raspbian release and install Clonezilla on it. You can then pl...
by jharris1993
Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:47 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

I did not edit the setup file as you suggested because those lines were already there. In your previous post you did not mention the os.json file - is something supposed to be there too? When you created your custom OSes, did the first 2 lines of partition_setup.sh for each OS look like this?: #!/bi...
by jharris1993
Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:56 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: How to back up a multiple partition image?
Replies: 7
Views: 288

How to back up a multiple partition image?

Greetings! Given one of the following cases: 1. A multi-boot installation created with PINN/NOOBS. 2. A multi-boot installation created using the instructions located at https://www.spket.com/blog/raspberry-pi-4-usb-dual-boot/ 3. A single boot installation that has a number of auxiliary partitions t...
by jharris1993
Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:38 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

Update, I took a 64 gig flash drive and used GParted to format it as one single Fat-32 partition. I then created an /os directory on it such that the only thing on it was the /os directory. Plugged into PINN it was recognized, however all the operating systems, including PINN itself, were determined...
by jharris1993
Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:17 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

All good advice. Re: Supports backup. Virtually guarantee it's not there as the multi-boot instructions didn't include it. GPT partitions: In a USB device you don't necessarily see the partition structure. What's even more interesting is that the device IS recognized as a clone and install target, j...
by jharris1993
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:53 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

Update: Apparently part of the problem is that extremely large devices are not recognized, or perhaps devices with other folders than just one /os folder. Another monkey-wrench is that PINN does not recognize any of my "custom" operating systems as something valid to backup even though the...
by jharris1993
Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:50 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

Sorry but no joy. I've read and re-read and re-re-read the .md file and I am doing what it asks. I have a LARGE (8t) NTFS formatted external USB hard drive that I want to use for my backup images as I know that it will have enough space. I created an "os" directory in the root of the drive...
by jharris1993
Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:13 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.
Replies: 1345
Views: 468882

Re: STICKY: PINN - An enhanced version of NOOBS.

Unfortunately, the "backup" feature is greyed out. Assume I select everything on the page that lists my installed OS's, the backup option is greyed out and is not selectable. Obviously I am doing something wrong. Next question: Given the existence of a backup of all the installations, plus...

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