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by DanielBull
Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:15 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

I'm not wrong, you maybe just worked in a different decade or a different region. Its well documented that the IBM sales force employed less than honourable tactics, in fact the term FUD which we still use today was actually invented by Gene Amdahl an ex IBM employee to describe the disinformation s...
by DanielBull
Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:38 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

I wouldn't say it has nothing to do with it but yes point taken they are different, VLC was perhaps not the best example.
by DanielBull
Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:49 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

To say it doesn't have X drivers is a tad incorrect. Clearly, there are drivers, otherwise X wouldn't work. There is the fbturbo driver which has X support, that gives accelerated window movement. Yeah OK, basically what I'm getting at is there are no Linux 3D drivers for the VideoCore in the same ...
by DanielBull
Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:29 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

Debian armel still supports the ARMv6 (until it gets dropped). That was the original OS on the Pi (apart from the initial attempts to use RedHat/Fedora). Raspbian is a version of Debian armhf that has been optimised for the specific ARMv6 in the Pi 1, which is only a small step back from the standa...
by DanielBull
Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:36 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

[ I think the main reason rpi was able to overcome the ordoid market was because odroid it was too costly, and more than that rpi had a solid distribution network and it was damn cheap solution without any compromise on quality. Agreed, the low cost of the Pi was the reason it was so successful (th...
by DanielBull
Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:43 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

well, if they (the "other" sbc) don't have software ready soon at launch then their survival is at stake considering most of them are profitable organisation. A lot of them do have software, you just have to put a bit more effort into it like you did with the early days of the Pi. Two of the things...
by DanielBull
Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:34 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

I think it was the initial interest in the Pi, engendered by Rory Cellin-Jones of the BBC, and the fast takeup of the forums, that got the Foundation over the initial hump (need money to keep support levels high), which all the other SBC makers have failed to do. Exactly. Also a lot of it was due t...
by DanielBull
Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:21 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

Hmmm, W. H. Heydt I'm going to have to throw another angle at what you've just said comparing IBM to the RPF and claiming other SBC manufacturers have no software support with an aim of hopefully explaining why that is. Firstly my understanding when we look back at history with hindsight, is a lot o...
by DanielBull
Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:06 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

It wouldn't have been a relatively cheap cut and shut then would it. It would have been a major project and we would probably still be waiting for the Pi2 now.
by DanielBull
Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:49 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

Because there is no GPU driver for X binary blob to hack in.
by DanielBull
Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:59 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

Yes but it wont just be h.265 that is affected, it will be all codecs other than those already implemented. And since codecs not supported by Broadcom on the VC4 (and I presume VC5) are already in heavy use this will become a problem.
by DanielBull
Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:20 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

It is true that the Lima drivers are reverse engineered though, so I'm guessing it either wasn't always the case or perhaps some bits are still closed?
by DanielBull
Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:59 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

Mali is not closed (at least its not currently, I don't know if that was always the case): http://malideveloper.arm.com/ On there you will find documentation, SDK's, sample code, and pretty much everything else you could ask for including GPL licensed open source drivers: http://malideveloper.arm.co...
by DanielBull
Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:41 pm
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

Thats interesting I didn't know that blueadept. Was the Mali open at the time or is that something recent as well?
by DanielBull
Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:25 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

LOL, that doesn't surprise me one bit RaTTuS. I've not done it myself but I'm aware of what a mess X is, Wayland is definitely the future; unfortunately it is just that at the moment, the future, I wish it were closer :( It will be interesting to see how Mir does as well. Canonical are moving along ...
by DanielBull
Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:15 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

These are all the type of questions which the Wayland group has battled with for years, its one of the reasons why its been a while coming. The problem is everyone has different requirements and X is used in everything from MP3 players to movie studio rendering so it needs to be done right. The othe...
by DanielBull
Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:35 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

I believe there are special modified versions of XBMC/Kodi which have hacks specifically for the Pi that bypass X and talk directly to the existing Pi drivers. The same is for MAME and other software which is graphically intensive. Once the X driver is released those versions will no longer be neede...
by DanielBull
Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:28 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

I could be wrong but I think once the X drivers are done we should be able to run WebGL on the Pi?
This is where my knowledge gets fuzzy but I'm guessing part of getting the X drivers done involves making full OpenGL drivers?

Maybe someone in the know can clarify...
by DanielBull
Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:18 am
Forum: Official Foundation Display
Topic: Another touch screen question
Replies: 14
Views: 2837

Re: Another touch screen question

Is that the correct link?
I can see ways to select specific firmware but not a procedure to get back to stock Raspbian and have the usual apt-get update/upgrade take care of the firmware?
by DanielBull
Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:09 am
Forum: General discussion
Topic: Why didn't we go with Mali?
Replies: 157
Views: 25117

Re: Why didn't we go with Mali?

Just thought I'd do a quick post to summarise whats going on (as I understand it) to try and answer a few questions such as those raised by Heater above. Whats this all about? The current RaspberryPi SOC was designed by Broadcom and at the time the chip was developed, the VideoCore was an extremely ...
by DanielBull
Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:17 am
Forum: Official Foundation Display
Topic: Another touch screen question
Replies: 14
Views: 2837

Re: Another touch screen question

For those that wish to see further information Phil and myself raised this as an issue with the rpi-update developer and requested warnings be put in place describing exactly what rpi-update does:
https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update/issues/158
by DanielBull
Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:15 am
Forum: Official Foundation Display
Topic: Another touch screen question
Replies: 14
Views: 2837

Re: Another touch screen question

The biggest issue with rpi-update is it appears to convert your Pi to the unstable development tree and there's no way to go back again. Also the unstable development environment may or may not break existing applications and software if it introduces changes which those applications are not yet pre...
by DanielBull
Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:55 am
Forum: User groups and events
Topic: Raspberry Jam for Milton Keynes
Replies: 92
Views: 19188

Re: Raspberry Jam for Milton Keynes

Hi Recantha, Sorry for some reason I didn't get an email notification for new posts on this thread... Basically the Motorola Xoom USB cable is just acting as a power supply. To access the Pi itself I am using SSH from Android over a WiFi connection, to get the GUI working I would use VNC as Alex sug...
by DanielBull
Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:49 pm
Forum: User groups and events
Topic: Raspberry Jam for Milton Keynes
Replies: 92
Views: 19188

Re: Raspberry Jam for Milton Keynes

Hey I just noticed we can upload attachments.... (although there appears to be some completely insane 64k limit?) Now I have the WiFi working, here's a quick demo of my Motorola Xoom Android tablet acting as a power supply, mouse, keyboard and monitor for my Pi :) Going to get it working with the GU...
by DanielBull
Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:30 pm
Forum: User groups and events
Topic: Raspberry Jam for Milton Keynes
Replies: 92
Views: 19188

Re: Raspberry Jam for Milton Keynes

Awesome :)
By the way you didn't need steps 5 and 6 but I guess you did that deliberately so you would have a backup copy of the driver on the Pi.

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